That's my point, in design, not sales, I don't think there was enough time allowed for sales to ramp up. Lack of advertising probably didn't help.
I see Import Brand adds 2 to 1 compared to domestics, even worse then...

They need to look at it like a millitary stratedgy, "Know your Enemy", study every facit religiously!...beat them at their own game.....

 

Thank you for your offer.....but sending money, while a nice thought, is quite hopeless.......

Yes, a better way to help GM is to consider one of our cars or trucks when it's time to buy a new one.

I get a little (make that a lot) nervous when I hear "Nationalized Health Care"...and it usually applies to the Government taking over .....the government has never, to my knowledge ever run anything efficiently. I do believe we need tort reform. What many don't realize is what lawsuits are doing to both Doctors/Healthcare/Hospitals/Pharmaceuticals. Now...I'm not an expert in the health field......and please, if I'm wrong, correct me....but one of the reasons prescription drugs are cheaper in other countries is because they aren't developed there..........second.....there aren't a bunch of attorneys just waiting to sue at the drop of a hat. I think some people forget that many drugs have extended peoples' lives ...even tho they may have side effects. The cost to GM, by the way, for health care for every employee and retiree is nearly $2,000 per car.

As to competition.....I say don't ban imports........BUT.......level the playing field....if Europe wants to put tarriffs on American cars, then I say we need to do the same thing.

GM has a lot of work to do to get out of where it's at........but I think it will make it. 1990 was much worse.

As to Olds........what killed it? Competition. Go back to the 70s.....how many imports were there? Not many.......at the time, a Cutlass Supreme cost about $150 more than a Monte Carlo........however, the internal cost was over 5 times that.........now......that made sense back then when the Alfred Sloan Business model was still rational (People enter at Chevy...and graduate up the GM ladder to Cadillac...)....but it isn't today. Olds simply was a huge drag on GM's finances. (I can't tell you the figures, 'cause I'd get fired, but if you really knew, your hair and teeth would fall out!)

 

One of the best RP posts ever. And thats saying something. Tort Reform. Thats the best place to start solving the big problem. Buy GM vehicles, thats the best way to start solving the GM problem.

 

If you want to "donate" to GM then buy some GM stock or some of their bonds.

They issue them for a reason you know...

 

Want to help GM. Things you can do are

1. buy a GM car
2. finance it through GMAC
3. refinance your house GMAC
4. GM does car insurance
5. GM also does a roadside assistance program (think AAA)
6. do they still own direct tv?

 

The new Grand Prix was to get a version of the 3.5 DOHC. Even rlsedition, who worked on the GP/GTO brand team, said this on ClubGP.com, as well it was posted here some weeks ago. Oldsmobile's phase out had a direct impact on its not being used.

The GXP Bonnie got a version of the Caddy's Northstar (275hp), not the Olds version (250hp).

 

Save up for that 5th gen!

 

I think that reform must also reach the FDA which seems to be puppeted by BIG Pharma, and Food Brands. If people only knew some of the crap allowed in their food, I think the anger would bring reform rather quickly. And allowing several THOUSAND people to DIE before "Pulling" a Medication is near unforgivable. They have the reflexes of a Sloth. By "eliminating things", NOT ADDING, from our food and Meds, they could save and preserve far more lives than they do now. Like additives in food that cause hunger, and known fat in Lab animals like MSG. (MonoSodiumGlucomate).Some are cheaper to grow, like Canola(oil) and Rapeseed, in things like Peanut butter, so toxic even bugs won't eat them. Flouride(Flourine), the main component in Atomic Bombs and Rat Poison, in most beverages and cereals etc...binds readily with any substance, pulls metals from plumbing, drains the Thyroid gland of Potasium, and when binds with ALuminum can get past the brain-barrier to cause Alsheimers(sp?)and ofcourse Cancer, consider collateral damage of the Manhatten Project incident......And its use in **** Germany @ prison camps, as a form of Prozac, to make the masses dosil and lathargic.
Many people in lawsuits know the damage being done, but to outsiders looks crazy...some may be, are just trying to get rich.

(Question: Why don't European countries allow the Import of most of U.S. foods??Beef especially.???
Why don't they Fouridate their water?, yet have the same or less cavity rate as we do??)

 

Maybe GM should get:


To do support commercials for GM.

"For only $1,780 dollars a day you can help a junior level GM boardroom exec continue his current lifestyle and ignore the harsh reality of the real world around him. Please, think of the rich executives who try so hard to provide wages to blue collar workers in Mexico and China so that you can buy cheap cars."

 

And get a GM card and use it.

 

Sory guys Flouride is not the devil and actually does prevent cavities. I have never heard that Europeans have the same or less cavity rate than we do. I'll check on that though (England certainly doesn't)

 

LOL, I have Kevin-Trudeau craziness too. If everyone read that book and any other FDA-criticizing site on the web we'd have the next agricultural revolution.

 

It's a proven fact, consumption of Flouride has virtually NO effect on cavities...and as a topical use, very limited. And NO, long term studies on possible diseases or illnesses caused by it have been done by the FDA or ADA...none.
In fact, the Manhatten incident was the major reason a study and use was found for Flouride...It killed; crops, vegetation, farm animals, and people. TOO many lawsuits over complications from exposure to Flouride by Atomic employees, lead the Govt to an official stance that it was safe and beneficial...it would've bankrupted the Govt..
It is a MAJOR toxic waste of the metal machining industries, which they had to find a better way to eliminate...now some 600,000 TONS of Aluminum-Flouride(b/c Flouride alone is impossible)is now SOLD and dumped into U.S. drinking water every year...now they are paid to get rid of it. Ending in Forced Mass Medication, as *****, which I believe IS EVIL.
And mercury is found in Silver filling material dentists use, eccess of which must be tagged and disposed of as TOXIC WASTE...and can cause Muscular Distrophy symptoms, which many doctors can't distinguish. And found in vaccines, causing Autism in some children...and a Nobel Prize wining scientist stated it was UNFIT for human comsumption at ANY level.

 

Can I see a link to where it is a proven fact that Flouride has virtually no effect on cavity prevention. I would like to read who researched this, and how it was conducted. Much of what you have posted just seems like extremist rheotoric to me. Do you know how an atomic bomb (or thermonuclear hydrogen bomb) is built, and how it works? You can make anything sound evil if you want to. We are losing stratoshperic ozone supposedly, but that is ok, because it is evil and bad for humans to breath in.

How would you do anything different if you ran the FDA? Thousands of people dying may sound like alot, but is really a piddling amount when looked at in proportion with our sheer population. Often it is just the price we pay to live in a technological civilization that we do.