Let's say it needs $10 BILLION dollars to survive. Divide by $50 and it comes out to 200 MILLION people.

Get off your high horse and send your 50 bucks already, be proactive for a change. Between you, me and the starter of the thread, that's like 100 people right there.

 

DDT is a necessary evil in some parts of the world. if you don't like it, then don't buy produce grown in countries that allow DDT. i believe if you ask your grocer they will tell you where a particular piece of produce was imported from. some of our local grocery stores actually have it posted either on the item itself as a sticker or on the price sign.

 

Exactly like the Spanish Influenza of the 1918 was. Oh, wait... Say what?

It killed between 20 and 40 million not because people did not wash their hands with soap, but because it was a very powerful virus unknown to human immune system that took over very quickly. Just because SARS turned out to be very small scale does not mean that H5N1 is or whatever the next strain will be.

I'm sure a lot of it is covered to death because newspapers want to publish sensationalism. Yet the fact remains, an unknown and rather deadly flu virus can emerge any moment.

edit: we are talking about flu pandemic, not just regular flu season.

 

How am I apathetic about this? Because I want to see a counterpoint? Which, I might add, no one has given.

By the way, many antibiotics are generally not good to give healthy people at all, whether they contain flouride or not. Antibiotics may kill bacteria, but they aren't necessarily your cells greatest neighbor when they are circulating within your body.

 

Yeah, that is why scientist are so concerned with this variation of the flu found in birds, because it has shown signs that if it did mutate and start infecting humans, we could have another pandemic flu on our hands. Good luck washing your hands if we get another pandemic flu. Hope you guys like going to family member's funerals.

 

DDT has done more for human health than any other single chemical ever.

 

True, but this man is a "Nobel Prize" winning Scientist in that field...kinda different than just your or my opinion.
Most of my research is in copy not web links, but I'll list some studies maybe you can find?...but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to pieces together the truth about Flouride(Flourine, Aluminum-Flouride, Potasium Flouride, Sodium Flouride...never just, Flouride, it's chemically impossible.)
Flouride trials began in 1945(hmmmm...A-Bomb timeline..)and by 1992 about 56% of the U.S. drinking water was flouridated. According to the American Water Works Association, only 65.8% of municipal water systems flouridate their water.
The New Jersey Fouride, "lawsuits" from the Dupont, Mahatten incident, were a serious threat to government plans of building A-bombs. The declassified reports are said to reveal that ultimately the government went against the evidence of the negative effects of Flouride and instead went out to quash the farmers' lawsuits by raising public confidence in the substance by conducting a series of its own lectures on the "benefits" of Flouride throughout the Cold War, and eventually added it to municipal tap water.
Also, Flouride is the ONLY chemical added to drinking water for the purpose of "medication" only , not to condition the water.
A study conducted by the National Institute of Dental Research (NIDR), found that the average difference in tooth decay between children living in Flouridated vs. Un-Flouridated areas amounted to less than 0.5% of the 128 "total tooth surfaces" in a child's mouth.
Further more, when water Flouridation began in 1945, it was believed that Flouride had to be "ingested" to be effective. This, however is No-Longer the view of most Dental experts.They NOW concede that Flouride's benefits are derived primarily from topical application. According to the Centers for Disease Control,(CDC) "Laboratory and epidemiologic research suggests that flouride prevents dental carries predominantly "after" the eruption of the tooth into the mouth, and its actions primarily are "topical" for both adults and children."
Flouride IS a cumulative poison. Only 50% of the Flouride we ingest each day is excreted through the kidneys; the remainder accumulates in our bones, pineal gland, and other soft tissues. If the kidneys are not functioning 100%, the accumulation will increase. Lack of proper nutrition will increase risks of "Skeletal Flourosis", making bones weak and brital.Flouride given to osteoperosis patients(50-75mg/day)to strengthen bones actually showed an increase in Hip fractures. And found an association between water Flouridation and hip fractures in the elderly. And in the U.S., up to 50,000 people a year die from "osteoperosis" related hip fractures.
Flouride has been shown to have "Mutagenic" properties, causing chromosome damage, and interfere with the enzymes involvled with DNA repair.
In 1991, the federal department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) estimated that the range of exposure in communities with approximately 1ppm Flouride in the water was 1.5 to 6.6mg per day. According to the U.S. government, approximately 1 in 3 children living in water Flouridated areas has dental-flourosis in at least 2 teeth, which is the first "visible sign" that Flouride has poisoned the enzymes in the body.
If Flouride were truly neccessary for healthy tooth development, we could expect to find naturally occuring high levels of Flouride in "breast milk. Yet levels of Flouride in breast milk are over 100 times less than added to municipal water. And only found at those levels because parents ingest it in almost everything we eat or drink.
Dr. Phyllis Mullenix former head of "toxicology" a Forsyth Dental Center in Boston and NOW critic of Flouridation, conducted animal studies in the early 1990's. She found that Flouride is a powerful central-nervous-system TOXIN and that the human brain could be adversely affected EVEN AT LOW DOSES.
The results of another study, published in 1998 by Varner, Jensen et al, reported on brain and kidney damaging effects in rats given Flouride in drinking water considered "Optimal" by pro-flouridation groups. Even more pronounced damage was seen in male rats that recieved Flouride in conjunction with Aluminum.
Studies conducted in China in 2003, found that Flouride levels can adversely affect children's I.Q. levels." As Flouride levels increased, I.Q. levels decreased, and rates of mental retardation and borderline intellegence increased," write researchers Xiang, et al.
A recent epidemiological study conducted by scientists from the U.S. Public Health Service, found that female infertility was associated with levels of Flouride greater than 3ppm in drinking water.
**Human studies were needed to boost consumer confidence, and Bomb researcher played a leading role in the design and implementation of the most extensive U.S. study of health effects of Flouridating public drinking water-conducted in Newburgh, New York, from 1945-1956, during which time Flouride was "Secretly added" to the public drinking water.Then, in a classified operation code named "Program-F", they secretly gathered and analyzed blood samples from Newburgh citizens, with the cooperation of the State Health Department. The classified version(now declassified), of the 1948 study published by "Program-F" scientists in the Journal of the American Dental Association shows adverse health effects from Flouride, but was censored(then)by the "U.S. Atomic Energy Commision". Due to then, Cold War national security conciderations which may have prevented objective scientific evaluation of vital public health questions concerning Flouride.

In conclusion, it's in nearly every processed food and drink, at levels above water levels. Even if, it had No adverse effects, why should any community PAY to add more to their water?????????????

 

Yeah, EVERY tumor analyzed by cancer centers report that a common element in EVERY tumor is PESTICIDES...

Kinda off topic, kinda not...info like this could lower health costs and that could help new product development...

 

so you'd rather millions die of malaria annually?

 

Medicines are a double edged sword. Several medicines are developed from (smaller doses) of some of the most toxic substances known to man.

Alot of medicine research and some current are from Venoms of Scorpions, Spiders, etc... While in large doses are deadly, in small they can have medicinal benefit.

Just like Anti-Depressants. Not good for your body, and NOT good for treatment if you can overcome it on your own. But for the mother that suffers severe post-partum which even though Tom Cruise is an idiot and says that Anti-Ds do not help people, I wouldn't be suprised if they have saved many babies lives and families as well.... ...

Double Edged Sword.

 

Ofcourse not, there are better ways, not cheaper maybe, but better. DDT is virtually ancient as far as technology goes and in many areas, completely ineffective due to the mosquito's building tolerences.
And again with "proper nutrition", the human body is very resilent and can overcome almost anything, not to mention improvements of modern treatments and nursing skills.
Genetics could be eventually used to eliminate the parasite carried by mosquito's by sterilizing it, as many other pests.
We must lower our dependency on harsh chemicals and get back to more natural basics, you can't improve on God...as it's said.

Would you rather millions die of Cancer annually? They are, pesticides are a major cause. Bro, there has to be a better way.

 

This is also linked to improper nutrition and toxic overloads, some people are more sensitive than others, they call them hypersensitive...like canaries in a coal mine...a warning sign.
People have been (cured) by detoxification and an organic diet until detoxed.

 

"proper nutrition" is the cure to malaria? nursing skills will save a malaria patient?

down with DDT but lets release genetically modified animals into the wild to roam freely?

 

Dude, none of us are getting the "proper" nutrition. The only way to come close is to go 100% organic, who can afford it? And yes, people have even been cured from malignant cancer by detoxing and totally organic diets.
We control termites everyday by using a more harmless chemical to sterilize them, why is it hard to accept for mosquitos??
Poison, is NEVER a good answer..."let's poison our environment so we can live"...

 

Pssssssst.

Want to see something funny?

Read the whole thread and watch it morph.