Is the GTO staying or going?
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
Originally Posted by UtOhCop
How was it great? It sold like ****.
It sold like crap cus dealers were marking it up to the price of corvettes....35K car with a 8K market adjustment. those dealer market adjustments killed the car..
For everthing the car delivered in performance, and build quality.. what was wrong with the 05 GTO??
ohh it didnt look like a GTO..well everyone thinkgs 69 Judge when you say GTO, look to see what the original GTO looked like..plain jane wrapper with a hood scoop and some other treatments. Same thing with this GTO..
got a great car and took it away again.
like the Buick GN the 90 Impala SS heck even the Fiero..
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
1st of all, sales figures do not have to be the dictating factor of whether a car is good or not.... secondly, it didn't "sell like ****".... we've been over this a billion times here, and it seems so many people don't want to grip reality when it comes to GTO sales figures....
Look up Mustang Cobra and Mustang Mach 1 sales numbers, compare them to GTO sales numbers, and get back to us...
Look up Mustang Cobra and Mustang Mach 1 sales numbers, compare them to GTO sales numbers, and get back to us...
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
Originally Posted by crYnOid
So, that bring me to another question. If the 5th gen camaro was to be closely related to the GTO, as was being suggested on this forum, is that still the case? Or is it just that Holden are not going to do a Monaro from a base of the Commodore, and are this time doing it from scratch on zeta?
Camaro and a swoopier Monaro sharing is the new plan.
Where that leaves GTO is unknown.
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
Originally Posted by Z284ever
As it turns out....VE/Zeta.....now is the standardization. It's like you almost need a score card.
Also, I really don't think a GTO will be released concurrently with Camaro. Not unless it comes back as a Camaro with an arrowhead on it's grill......
Also, I really don't think a GTO will be released concurrently with Camaro. Not unless it comes back as a Camaro with an arrowhead on it's grill......
If GM is fast tracking this program ahead of Epsilon II, they know exactly what they are gonna do by now (one would imagine).
I know Guy knows quite a few people in Austraila, so I tend to believe that he would know if VE/Zeta had become the standard Global RWD Platform. With the financial situation, I can not see GM using the more expensive VE as the global RWD platform (after they axed the idea a year ago)? If it is the case someone needs to be fired, because this kind of infighting and delays in getting product to market is what will kill GM. Also, if the Camaro is gonna share a platform with a large sedan, I can not beleive it would take to much to engineer a large coupe since Pontiac already did a bunch of work on this with VE (guess it all depends on how similar the hard points are between Sigma and VE).
Last edited by formula79; Dec 17, 2005 at 04:17 PM.
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
Originally Posted by formula79
I can not beleive it would take to much to engineer a large coupe since Pontiac already did a bunch of work on this with VE
The G8 would have been essentially a Commodore with a Poncho grill. The GTO was a series of styling excercises. Engineering was probably limited to computer math.
And oh BTW, regarding your comment in your post Branden, I don't want people trying to turn this into a pissing match between Guy and myself again.
Last edited by Z284ever; Dec 17, 2005 at 06:40 PM.
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
A few interesting posts:
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...98&postcount=5
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...63&postcount=2
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=155
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=81
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...98&postcount=5
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...63&postcount=2
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...&postcount=155
http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showpos...7&postcount=81
Last edited by ZaphodBeeblebrox; Dec 18, 2005 at 11:21 AM.
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101273
Here's an article from last year about how gm reset the target for GTO to 1k units per month, so it's actually dead on.
Here's an article from last year about how gm reset the target for GTO to 1k units per month, so it's actually dead on.
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Re: Is the GTO staying or going?
Originally Posted by Z284ever
And oh BTW, regarding your comment in your post Branden, I don't want people trying to turn this into a pissing match between Guy and myself again.
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