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Old May 10, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
Yeah maybe....maybe not.

The point is, the one with the sophisticated suspension, handily outhandles the one with the austere suspension. Just wanted to point that out to anyone who is in a state of denial.
...but the true irony is that the car with the simple suspension will sell for $10,000 less and sell 10X as many copies, even though it "can't handle as well."
Old May 10, 2005 | 09:35 PM
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567RWHP? That is like over 600HP at the crank. Yeah right.
Old May 10, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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567RWHP? That is like over 600HP at the crank. Yeah right.

About 620 at the crank.

Easy duty for the SC mod motors.
Old May 10, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WERM
...but the true irony is that the car with the simple suspension will sell for $10,000 less and sell 10X as many copies, even though it "can't handle as well."
Maybe not quite $10,000 less or 10x more, but I get your point. How sweet it would be if the car with the simple suspension, got the good one for say, $1,000 more.

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Old May 10, 2005 | 11:40 PM
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I think that's misinfo. I'm betting it'll be more like a 450 crank HP car.
Old May 11, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Everything that has been said officially about the car has said 450+ hp, or more than 450 hp, quite a bit more than 450hp. Yet, you are sure that a boosted 5.4 will "only" have 450 crank hp.

Ok............. whatever.

Z284ever, I can understand the point of a 2-seater sportscar handling better than a 4-seater Ponycar............... however, I don't see it being $7205 better (as tested price of the Z was $41,110, for the Mustang it was $33,905). The Vert Mustang is softer than the coupe also. Also, I think it is kind of a stretch to think that someone who is looking at a $33K vert can even think about cross shopping it with a $41K vert. Most people buying $33K cars are stretching it to get that car. A couple of grand will put them out of the market.......... much less an additional $7K. Its really easy for us to sit here and debate about other peoples money......... but in the real world, it is not nearly as cut and dried.

On this note, I do get a kick out of comparisons between cars, where there is a large price difference. The part I find to be the funniest is when they conclude that they like the higher priced car because it has more amenities............. or fancier interiors............ yet the vehicles are somewhere around $10K difference in price. You just want to scream, DUH!!!! Gee, what a surprise............ the more expensive car has more stuff............ gosh, you guys sure are smart.

Do these writers think we are all idiots???
Old May 11, 2005 | 12:31 AM
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Z284ever, I can understand the point of a 2-seater sportscar handling better than a 4-seater Ponycar............... however, I don't see it being $7205 better (as tested price of the Z was $41,110, for the Mustang it was $33,905). The Vert Mustang is softer than the coupe also. Also, I think it is kind of a stretch to think that someone who is looking at a $33K vert can even think about cross shopping it with a $41K vert. Most people buying $33K cars are stretching it to get that car. A couple of grand will put them out of the market.......... much less an additional $7K. Its really easy for us to sit here and debate about other peoples money......... but in the real world, it is not nearly as cut and dried.
It didn't just handle better, it handled waaay mucho better. And the tested Z was a fully loaded luxo-cruiser. Z Roadsters can be had for an MSRP of $34,350, that's $455 more than the tested Mustang GT. Sure the Mustang convertible has softer settings than the coupe...as is the case with the 350Z.

I might spend $20K on a base Mustang. I might spend $25K on a GT. But there is no frickin' way I'd spend nearly THIRTYFOURGRAND!!! on a brand spankin' new ponycar, that can't take down my 16 year old IROC in the twisties.

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Old May 11, 2005 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever

I might spend $20K on a base Mustang. I might spend $25K on a GT. But there is no frickin' way I'd spend nearly THIRTYFOURGRAND!!! on a brand spankin' new ponycar, that can't take down my 16 year old IROC in the twisties.

What makes you think that? The '03-'04 Cobra outhandled the '02 SS in the twisties even if barely, what makes you think that the new Mustang that is new better in every way handling wise can't do better? Put it this way, it will smoke your old Iroc in the twisties.[
Old May 11, 2005 | 12:52 AM
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Put it this way, it will smoke your old Iroc in the twisties.
Ok, tell me why. (other than horsepower)
Old May 11, 2005 | 06:08 AM
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About 620 at the crank.

Easy duty for the SC mod motors.

I guess I should have clarified that statement. Yes easy duty for the SC mod motor. What I don't believe is the HP rating the car will have once it is for sale. As a matter of fact I do believe the engine will be rated between 450HP and 475HP, which of course is still very healthy.
Old May 11, 2005 | 06:10 AM
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... 10X as many copies, even though it "can't handle as well."
I thought the SVT cars were limited productions, am I wrong? Also anyone know the anticipated Z51 production?
Old May 11, 2005 | 08:24 AM
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[QUOTE=91_z28_4me]I thought the SVT cars were limited productions, am I wrong? Also anyone know the anticipated Z51 production?[/QUOTE}
Believe he was talking about the regular GT compared to the 350Z.
Old May 11, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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My bad I thought he was talking SVT Mustang vs Z51.
Old May 11, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by NikiVee
I guess I should have clarified that statement. Yes easy duty for the SC mod motor. What I don't believe is the HP rating the car will have once it is for sale. As a matter of fact I do believe the engine will be rated between 450HP and 475HP, which of course is still very healthy.
This is all just conjecture, but I agree. I'll go further and predict that stock units will put down ~425 or so to the wheels. Once again, it just makes sense when looking at stock numbers for 03/04 Cobras, and the upgrades given to the GT500 (5.4, better heads, better blower, etc).
Old May 11, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by NikiVee
I guess I should have clarified that statement. Yes easy duty for the SC mod motor. What I don't believe is the HP rating the car will have once it is for sale. As a matter of fact I do believe the engine will be rated between 450HP and 475HP, which of course is still very healthy.

Totally agree. I'll guess a 475hp rating and putting down about 450rwhp => 500 crank.



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