Gold_Rush

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=647398

If this is true, there'll be good potential locked up in this engine. According to the guy, the mule makes 567hp at the wheels on a dynojet. Also according to him, it'll be detuned to an even 500hp and 500lb-ft tq. It's always funny when 500hp/500lb-ft and "detuned" are used in the same sentence hehe.

I don't know how much of what this guy is saying is true, but if it is, SVT's got a true beast in the making.

Some other things he mentioned. IRS may be reintroduced later down the line and is already fully developed. The mule also had 285/40/18 Eagle F1 Supercar tires, larger than the odd 255's we saw on the showcar. For some reason, he was told that 285's are the widest that would fit .

Z284ever

It's going to be a monster....in a straight line, that is.

Gold_Rush

Still hung up over the use of a live axle? .

Don't sign off on it just yet cause of the use of a live axle.

I mean, Saleen has gotten their 205 S281 to post some very respectable #. There's hope for the Cobra.

05 s281
600' slalom: 69.9mph
200' skidpad: 0.97g's
MT figure 8, sec@avg g: 24.9sec@0.74g's

Figures that slightly best and are comparable to the Z51 c6 they've tested. Now, i'm not saying the GT500 will handle as well as an S281, just showing that the live axle is more than capable of putting up good numbers with the right setup.

So if they do their homework, they should have a pretty resepectable handler and more than just a simple straightline beast. I'm hoping they've done their homework.

Z284ever

I'm just saying it's going to be a respectable handler...but certainly won't have a corner carver mission.

BTW, I think it's the current MT....has a comparo between a Mustang GT convertible and a 350Z convertible. Check it out.

Z28x

It is going to be a monster. I hope the Lingenfelter S/C GTOs and F5 Camaros are right in line price wise. I'd hope a S/C LS2 could hang with that.

Gold_Rush

It certainly won't be no Lotus elise, but it'll be respectable. I hope it is as balanced as SVT totes.

Good read. I've got that mag around here somewhere, but can't find it. It's also in the current issue of C&D, as well as the April issue of MT. GT convertible surprised me on both accounts, acceleration wise. It's a solid 13 second car, and faster than the low 14's i was expecting.

On the handling (guess that's why you brought it up ), the convertible has a softer suspension setup. It's not that impressive in the turns.

Gold_Rush

They should hang with it i would think. How much hp does the LP supercharged Ls2 GTO's make? I'm assuming 500+ horses easily.

I remember seeing a TT LP GTO, custome job or are TT kits available in place of the supercharger?

The one thing going for the GT500 would be mod potential with boost since it was factory engineered from the getgo with boost in mind. I don't know if LPE offers the same level of engineering or if they're capable of reliably supporting 10+psi. Here is where the factory boosted engines shine. A factory engineered, boosted, and forged Ls2 would be something *drool*. I'm not expecting it (and GM most likely doesn't care for it), but it would be a monstrous motor too.

falchulk

I really diagreed with that article. If they tested the old mustang versus the 350z it would have made sense. Even then, you are comparing a larger 4 seater to a smaller 2 seater. The diffrence in weight is only about 250lbs. The 350z is naturally going to have a stiffer chasis because it has less open space in the cockpit.

Z28x

They are being tested as we speak

Z284ever

Yeah that...or.....maybe...........because...

one has struts/live axle suspension and the other a sophisticated split control arm, double wishbone front and multilink IRS suspension.


You see...the hardware DOES matter.

Z28Wilson

Slalom speeds and skidpad G's are just one small test of handling prowess, and I could argue that on real world back roads like those found in Michigan the live axle car will be tossed all over the place, ".97 g" on the skidpad or not. This is where IRS makes the difference, not so much on the race track but on public roads where 99% of your buyers do 100% of their driving!

If 285's are as wide as the new Mustang platform can take, it appears as though they've carried retro all the way through to the rubber.

MunchE

And one of them has a blue oval on it that means you automatically discount it as crap! I guess what the car is made of really does matter

This stuff about the mule sounds really cool. Everything coming out seems like the new GT500 is going to be a scorcher. I can't wait to see some of the real cars come out. Sadly, this thing could handle better than an Elise and we'd have throngs of people on msg boards going "HURRRR MUSTANGS CAN'T TURN HURRR LIVE AXLES = CRAP I SAW IT ON THE TEEVEE!" even though most of the mags have nothing but good to say about the GT's handling.

Z284ever

Ummm, no. My daily driver has a Blue Oval on it. I give credit where credit is due.

Also, I've driven both a Mustang and a 350Z...and Lordy,Lordy,Lordy...there is a difference in the way they handle.

IREngineer

We are talking about 2 different cars with 2 different focuses. I would only very loosely say they are competing.

Z284ever

Yeah maybe....maybe not.

The point is, the one with the sophisticated suspension, handily outhandles the one with the austere suspension. Just wanted to point that out to anyone who is in a state of denial.