From what I've read on the GT-R, it's one amazing piece of equipment. I'd love to have one in the garage, and I'd hate to have to make a choice between it and a Z06 because I'm sure that I'd love either vehicle (and for different reasons).

Off-topic excursion...

Steve0, what you say about the leaf springs is basically true - but keep in mind that GM isn't building vehicles so that they can be easily modified. For those that don't want to mess around with changing the spring rate and ride height, the leaf springs offer better packaging and lower weight. This makes them a better choice for 99%+ of the Corvette's buyers. The single biggest problem for the aftermarket is the large capital and tooling cost to manufacture replacement leaf springs, where as there are several quality suppliers for aftermarket coils.

 

It's been said several times that race teams use coilovers because they can quickly change settings.

It would be cool to see a pushrod activated inboard coilspring suspension.

 

Don't quote me on this but this is JMO..

I feel after a few years on a real road and in the hands or real people this cars going to get a beating..To keep this car at a low price point and to do what it does..right now it can take the abuse..but after how long will things break down?
Just seams like to me with all the electronic gadgets that make this thing perform like it cost 3 times as much..those will fail in the real world..

It IS doing what it says but how long will it do it before one thing busts..causing the whole car to fail...especially with all the safeguards built into the car, the warranty saft guards and all the other stuff..
I mean one of the first test we saw was in Japan and the guy ownded the car gave it to the testers and were afraid of breaking the car if they did not luanch it right?

Just feels to me like a very delicate car that goes really fast..or visa versa..

 

you ask what GM will do with the ZO6? my question would be WTF is porsche gonna do with their 911... you would think they would get sick of everyone compairing these cheapers cars to theirs and just put out something insane already to stop these rediculas articles

 

I'm a pretty hardcore GM fanboy and pretty much love any performance car GM comes out with without question. I am also just a car nut in general. I think the GTR looks like a pretty awesome car. I thought it was a bit ugly until I saw it in motion ( video, not in person). I think its really cool but I also think its a bit strong to suggest that it spanks the Z06 (on the cover of Road and Track) Its very impressive and seems to be faster than the Z06 which is very impressive. I would still take the Z06 given the choice between the two but if I had Bill Gates money I would have a GTR in the garage too.

 

You might find a more captive audience on the Nissan boards maybe...
It's one thing to keep posting here in certain topics but to keep bringing up pro-GTR/Nissan info and wanting us to put aside our basic likes and dislikes of the car just to have a reasonable discussion that meets your criteria is a little near sighted don't you think? IMO people here have been more than kind to the GTR over the many topics and posts already made. It's a fast car deserving of respect and worthy competition for anything on 4 wheels. But that's it. What is there is discuss? You think it's a significant vehicle and I think the '86 GLHS was significant but I don't expect a reasonable debate over it here.
The GTR is great but we're not likely to proclaim it best car ever made and probably not willing to give it more respect than the cars many of us on CZ28 like. If we did this would be GTR.com. I know better than to solicit praise and love for the 2010 Camaro on the import boards and that's ok, different strokes for different folks. I certainly won't loose any sleep over it. So don't get offended if there isn't a shower of love for the GTR here. It's still a cool car and it’s ok if you like/love it… I promise.

 

it's not like we all work for Nissan or anything like that...

I'm surprised nobody even commented on my GT-R picture. I know it is blurry and it was just a show-only preproduction pusher, but it might be the first picture put online of a GT-R being pushed around.

 

I want RWD, not AWD.

But the GTR is still quite an accomplishment.

What about a GT version that sheds a couple or three hundred pounds, $10K, and the AWD hardware?

 

Then why is nobody complaining about the $122,000 911 Turbo?

When the ZR1 reaches production, people will absolutely compare it against the GT-R and the 911 Turbo.

I think it's coming. I read somewhere a few months ago that GM is working on a dual-clutch transmission, and you can bet that it will be an option on Corvette just as soon as they have one that can handle the torque. Torque handling doesn't seem to be an issue in general with DCTs, so I'm guessing we'll see it first on Corvette, or maybe on a next-gen XLR.

I am curious, too, to see how reliable the GT-R is over time.

 

Is that a couple of Nissan fanboys dry-humping a GTR that they saw on the street?


Hehe, I've been meaning to make that comment since yesterday.

 

I understand that people tend to like what they are familar with or just like something because they like something but AWS and AWD does things for handling and overall performance that is nothing short of incredible when applied correctly.

 

I don't know if you were implying tha the GTR was faster than the Z06 in this comment, but I agree with your point, in principal.

In one article (R&T), it has the GTR faster on the track, but the Z06 is definately ahead in straight line acceleration. It seems that the GTR gets it's great ET's from it's launch control scenario, which is good for the numbers, but I'm not sure how realistic it is for typical driving. Can is be set quickly to "launch mode"?

Regardless, a turbo six cylinder with AWD is what I've always told a buddy of mine is a killer package. This was back years before the GTR was built, and was more around the discussion of the Sti and EVO. I just wish GM would have got their sooner.

Dan

 

I was looking through the Motor Trend Article and have to say this car does more than I thought it actually would. If I had the money I'd take it over a Z06 if I could get a true manual (I refuse to drive anything auto no matter how efficient it is) and could take the speed limiter off without voiding the warranty. It's not as fast as the Z in a straight line (a fact the magazines were trying to hide), but as a daily driver it is far more practical with it's AWD and back seats (we get lots of rain and snow in Ohio and I usually drive everyone when my friends and I go places). Everyone complains that the car is underrated (ever heard of a 03-04 Cobra?) I myself am in the mindset that I will never buy anything that's not Ford, GM, or Chrystler, but the fact is Nissan finally did something right so we have to quit making excuses and give them some credit

 

Well said

 

I know. I'm just not interested in it

I'd prefer lighter weight, better acceleration, higher fuel economy, and lower maintenance of RWD. It doesn't matter to me that the AWD would be faster around a track, 'cause I don't drive on a track. I don't drive in snow either. But I do pay to fill up and maintain my cars.

A 3600 pound GT2 (or whatever it'd be called) with 480hp at $60K would be pretty neat. To tell the truth, I'd probably go for a Corvette if I were in the market for such a car.
And more truth is that I'm more in the G8/135i/G35 market.

But it'd be a cool option.