Actual articles are now coming - every mag will likely have a GT-R review in their May issues.

Here is one:

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/04/04/f...09-nissan-gt-r


And another:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6594

I hope these links work!

 

yup... im sick of this car already... its like the second comming of the supra IMO

 

If Toyota brought out the Supra, ricer fanboys would explode in thier baggy pants...

 

It's too bad 99.9% of those same people will never be able to afford either of those cars.

 

 

*yawn*

More hype.

I wonder what GM has up it's sleeve for the Z06, since the GT-R is so close in performance.

 

Uh, ZR1?

 

For months folks have been crying about not having any real information about the GT-R but now when the automotive press start to report on their actual observations with production versions of the car and you don't like what is said you just call it "hype"!

I'm sure everything "good" said about the Z06 is "hype" too or is that "different"???

As to the cost someone mentioned, how many people can afford a Z06 or a ZR1, or even a base C6 for that matter?

Perhaps a better question is, do you have to be able to afford a car in order to be able to appreciate it???

 

Only 1 person besides you has used the word hype in this thread

 

The ZR1 isn't in the same price bracket.

 

Ok...that's a fair observation. However, I think it also a fair observation to say that the other comments seem to be universally dismissive of the car whether they use the word hype or not.

It would be nice, for a change, to have some reasonable discussion about what I think is a pretty significant vehicle regardless of whether one like or dislikes the GT-R.

 

If I was GM I'd leave the Z06 alone. Its an awesome car in its own right. You dont have to be the fastest on the block to be respected.

Both cars are pretty awesome in my opinion... I really like the "technologically advanced" package the GTR gives. +500hp TT V6, advanced AWD, dual clutch sequential transmission, and tons of other features. I figure when comparing content for price to the Z06 Nissan must be selling these at a loss... only Nissan could answer that, and its probably a small price to pay for such an awesome, competitive halo car.

But at the same time I have a soft spot for good old fashioned pushrods and a rwd platform. I think it'd take a lot more than a hp boost to outrun the GTR. AWD just gives the car a ridiculous traction advantage in turns. That said, the Z06 is more than plenty enough car for just about anyone who will own it. I actually like it better than the ZR1... I am not a fan of the ZR1 at all...

The C7 Vette should make things really interesting when it comes along. I think the hp levels are pretty stout where they are.. take away some weight, improve the suspension (possibly ditch leaf springs ) and provide an optional sequential transmission... That'd be my dream anyways...

 

what's wrong with the leaf springs? THey weigh less than conventional springs and work just as well in the Vette.

I know die-hard enthusiasts will hate this, but where is the dual-clutch smart automatic for the Corvette?

AWD would add rediculous weight since the car would need to be completely redesigned AND of course the added weight of the front drivetrain.

I don't really see where they can improve on the corvette in general. Sure, make it weigh less, but that comes at an increased cost unless you make it physically smaller. If it gets any smaller inside, my fat **** and thousands of other fat ***** won't fit anymore. THe C6 is already a tight squeeze. You could take away some of the storage space in the hatch? There's not much room to improve upon in front of the car either.

 

Whatever solution GM comes up with for the C7 Corvette, I hope they keep *the driver* as part of the equation.

"Push one button for maximum acceleration from a dead stop" and "trust in AWD and the electro-nannies to keep you safe, no matter how stupid you are" seem like the antithesis of, well, a *fun* car.

 

Well essentially you are pulling the control arms down as opposed to pushing them down with a coil spring. There are definitely pros and cons to each design.

Coil springs/coil overs would allow for more flexibility in a redesigned suspension geometry for one. Ie, say you would like your spring's moment to be applied to your control arm at 45 degree angle down and away from the center of the car. It would be much simpler to angle a spring at 45 degrees than design a control arm/leaf spring arrangement that would pull downwards at 45 degrees. I'm not saying that that is a realistic number, but hopefully you catch where I'm going...

You could also increase the ability to adjust your suspension. You could use different spring rates per corner, and the ability to adjust height becomes easier. I'm sure that these reason are the main reasons for the C6R's running coil overs as opposed to leaf springs.

I would also think that there would be a natural frequency for the leaf spring which would affect the front or rear of the car as a whole, instead of each wheel indepently.

Just me talking though and thinking out loud... I dont claim much fact in anything I've mentioned... all speculation and my engineer side coming out.