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Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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This is just horrible news, if it turns out to be true. As others have said, the writing was on the wall - niche brand, yeah. It is a sad, sad time to be a GM fan.

I guess of all the remaining brands(?) Pontiac was the one to go, it has no presence outside of North America. Chevy better up their game a few notches, I'm on my third Pontiac and there hasn't been a Chevy that really turned my crank in at least a decade - outside of Camaro or Corvette although I can't say I'd ever buy a vette if push came to shove.

If there is a silver lining here, I suppose that anyone looking for a G8 bargain in the future won't have to wait too, too long, this news will absolutely destroy whatever residuals were possible given the current situation.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by LT1 PWRD
Great

2 of GM's best cars are going to disappear? The G8 and Vibe.
The G8 just needed some marketing dollars to get sales going and the Vibe has consistently been a winner which happened to have best residual/resale values of ANY GM car.
As mentioned in another thread, G8's sales were just starting to get some traction ... but this ought to put an end to that. And as much as I think the Vibe is a pretty good car, it never really fit with the Pontiac brand IMO.

I wonder what this will do to the resale value of Pontiacs. Good thing I'm planning to keep mine for a while (at least at this point in time).
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:54 PM
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I wonder what this will do to the resale value of Pontiacs.
Hopefully it will make the already desireable Pontiacs even MORE desireable.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 10:59 PM
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So are they completely gone...or is it just scaled back to a "niche-brand" for G8 and Solstice?
Scaled back to a "niche-brand" is how I read it. Which is what has been expected for months.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:09 PM
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Scaled back to a "niche-brand" is how I read it. Which is what has been expected for months.
completely dead not niche Pontiac will cease to exist
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:12 PM
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Oh the rumors. The rumors, the rumors, the rumors. Everybody wants to have "the" scoop.

I'll start one of my own. GM's going to cut Cadillac from the European market.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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I don't know about you guys but I'm going to pick up a sweet G3 before prices sky-rocket.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:39 PM
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IM happy with my GP GXP!!!

Long live Pontiac...
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by TrackMagicWS6
completely dead not niche Pontiac will cease to exist
The article says that Pontiacs Niche status is unchanged.
Old Apr 24, 2009 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by super83Z
The article says that Pontiacs Niche status is unchanged.

There's nothing I can share with you at this time... Officially, nothing has changed with Pontiac's niche-brand status, until you hear differently."
I would be Happy if Pontiac was niche, but its not gonna happen now.

In its restructuring plan rejected by President Obama's autos task force last month, GM proposed shrinking Pontiac into a niche brand with one or two offerings. But the task force wants GM to cut deeper and faster, necessitating the decision to eliminate Pontiac, which leaves the automaker with four core brands: Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...04240444?imw=Y
Old Apr 25, 2009 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by super83Z
The article says that Pontiacs Niche status is unchanged.
The status won't really change. Every model will continue their production run until sales dictate otherwise, and then they will not be replaced. That's how they handled Oldsmobile.

The government probably wants to make sure that Pontiac stays dead to prevent Rick Wagoner Junior from screwing kidney grilles onto Cruizes and Malibus.
Old Apr 25, 2009 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by flowmotion
The status won't really change. Every model will continue their production run until sales dictate otherwise, and then they will not be replaced. That's how they handled Oldsmobile.
If that's the case, there were some incredible fire-sale deals on Oldsmobiles near the end. At the time they were leases too, so you didn't have to worry about the back end.
Old Apr 25, 2009 | 08:52 AM
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Kind of sad, really. Of all the GM divisions, Pontiac was the easiest to get "right", but they just couldn't muster the discipline to stop whoring it out and giving it mediocre products that don't fit with the brand, because "some dealers wanted it".

Aztek
G3
G5
G6 (How do you maintain a performance image when your car can't even outperform "non-performance" competitors from companies like Toyota and Honda?)
Montana/Transport
...and so on.
Old Apr 25, 2009 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TrackMagicWS6
I would be Happy if Pontiac was niche, but its not gonna happen now.

In its restructuring plan rejected by President Obama's autos task force last month, GM proposed shrinking Pontiac into a niche brand with one or two offerings. But the task force wants GM to cut deeper and faster, necessitating the decision to eliminate Pontiac, which leaves the automaker with four core brands: Chevrolet, Cadillac, Buick and GMC.

http://www.detnews.com/article/20090...04240444?imw=Y
IT may become official that Pontiac is completely done. But for right now offcially their niche status is unchanged. The journalist you quoted and yourself think that the big O called this week and said "hey close Pontiac on Monday"
Old Apr 25, 2009 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by super83Z
IT may become official that Pontiac is completely done. But for right now offcially their niche status is unchanged. The journalist you quoted and yourself think that the big O called this week and said "hey close Pontiac on Monday"
Because he did!

The closing of Pontiac is done because the Obama Administration said it had to be done. Simple as that.



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