G8 coupe slip-up..
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I'm not wild about it
I think the general population hears "Pontiac" and "firehawk" they automatically think of a Firebird with a big bird across the hood.
How about
Pontiac G8 T/A? (not Trans Am)
G8 X?
G8 GXP W? (like wide Track and WS options?)
Volvo uses R
MB uses AMG
BMW uses M
Cadillac uses V
Chevrolet uses SS
Pontiac needs to create a brand identity for their performance sedan.
I think the general population hears "Pontiac" and "firehawk" they automatically think of a Firebird with a big bird across the hood.
How about
Pontiac G8 T/A? (not Trans Am)
G8 X?
G8 GXP W? (like wide Track and WS options?)
Volvo uses R
MB uses AMG
BMW uses M
Cadillac uses V
Chevrolet uses SS
Pontiac needs to create a brand identity for their performance sedan.
Since SLP is going to make a new G8, why not call it an SLP G8 or a G8 SLP. It would do more for their brand recognition.
Hennessy Viper
Lingenfelter Corvette
Saleen Mustang
Now, if they are going to do this package on any G8, I don't like the idea. But, why not call it an SLP G8.
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The problem is "Firehawk" sounds so much like "Firebird"...it is hard to see it on another car. Also, the package does not really show any design evolution. It looks like some dealer bought some old SLP decals and cobbled a car togethor.
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Since the subject of a Holden coupe (or the next Monaro), at the risk of stirring up a behive, I'm going to present a "hypothetical" situation.
Suppose Holden actually made the Commodore coupe using the inner coupe construction of the Camaro Zeta with the original "firewall" to front wheel setup of the Commodore.
Suppose you remember that Holden developed the coupe, assembled the Camaro prototypes, and piggybacked their own program with the Camaro.
Suppose the numbers made sense, and Holden decided to goahead and make the car, starting, say, within the next 12 months or less.
Now suppose it was sold everywhere except the US because of a combination of the US-Aussie exchange rate, feeling it would take away sales and attention from the Camaro, uncertainty about the US economy, and a fear of perceptions as it's working on government loan guarantees as well as more friendly CAFE guidelines.
Sounds pretty plausable, huh?
Suppose Holden actually made the Commodore coupe using the inner coupe construction of the Camaro Zeta with the original "firewall" to front wheel setup of the Commodore.
Suppose you remember that Holden developed the coupe, assembled the Camaro prototypes, and piggybacked their own program with the Camaro.
Suppose the numbers made sense, and Holden decided to goahead and make the car, starting, say, within the next 12 months or less.
Now suppose it was sold everywhere except the US because of a combination of the US-Aussie exchange rate, feeling it would take away sales and attention from the Camaro, uncertainty about the US economy, and a fear of perceptions as it's working on government loan guarantees as well as more friendly CAFE guidelines.
Sounds pretty plausable, huh?
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Now suppose it was sold everywhere except the US because of a combination of the US-Aussie exchange rate, feeling it would take away sales and attention from the Camaro, uncertainty about the US economy, and a fear of perceptions as it's working on government loan guarantees as well as more friendly CAFE guidelines.
Sounds pretty plausable, huh?
Sounds pretty plausable, huh?
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Grrrrrrr....
Since the subject of a Holden coupe (or the next Monaro), at the risk of stirring up a behive, I'm going to present a "hypothetical" situation.
Suppose Holden actually made the Commodore coupe using the inner coupe construction of the Camaro Zeta with the original "firewall" to front wheel setup of the Commodore.
Suppose you remember that Holden developed the coupe, assembled the Camaro prototypes, and piggybacked their own program with the Camaro.
Suppose the numbers made sense, and Holden decided to goahead and make the car, starting, say, within the next 12 months or less.
Now suppose it was sold everywhere except the US because of a combination of the US-Aussie exchange rate, feeling it would take away sales and attention from the Camaro, uncertainty about the US economy, and a fear of perceptions as it's working on government loan guarantees as well as more friendly CAFE guidelines.
Sounds pretty plausable, huh?
Suppose Holden actually made the Commodore coupe using the inner coupe construction of the Camaro Zeta with the original "firewall" to front wheel setup of the Commodore.
Suppose you remember that Holden developed the coupe, assembled the Camaro prototypes, and piggybacked their own program with the Camaro.
Suppose the numbers made sense, and Holden decided to goahead and make the car, starting, say, within the next 12 months or less.
Now suppose it was sold everywhere except the US because of a combination of the US-Aussie exchange rate, feeling it would take away sales and attention from the Camaro, uncertainty about the US economy, and a fear of perceptions as it's working on government loan guarantees as well as more friendly CAFE guidelines.
Sounds pretty plausable, huh?
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Well, I'm not sure if the hypothetical situation would include Canada or not, but I would include Europe, South Africa, & the Middle East. I didn't say it before, but say it was made on at the Elizebeth City plant in Australia on Holden's assembly line? They made quite a few Camaros down there, afterall.
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Well, I'm not sure if the hypothetical situation would include Canada or not, but I would include Europe, South Africa, & the Middle East. I didn't say it before, but say it was made on at the Elizebeth City plant in Australia on Holden's assembly line? They made quite a few Camaros down there, afterall.
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Yeah, but with Pontiac on the block, where the hell would it go?
Buick would be the only other thing, but then you have a 2 door coupe in or about the same price range as the Camaro or CTS coupe.
Buick would be the only other thing, but then you have a 2 door coupe in or about the same price range as the Camaro or CTS coupe.
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To be honest. I think 99% of the American population could give two ****s that they will call it a Firehawk.
If it's fast and looks cool it will be the envy of high school kids and will sell just as well as if they named it anything else.
"Enthusiasts" go a little overboard sometimes.
If it's fast and looks cool it will be the envy of high school kids and will sell just as well as if they named it anything else.
"Enthusiasts" go a little overboard sometimes.