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Old Sep 22, 2008 | 01:55 PM
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G8 coupe slip-up..

Originally Posted by David Hamburger
So a 2 door Supercharged Firehawk based off of the GXP is not a real Firehawk?


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Good ole SLP at it again. Slips up talking about a coupe and trying to backtrack it.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=989909 More info there.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:11 PM
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Wow, I haven't read all the pages in that link, but I can't believe they'd slap the Firehawk name on anything other than a Firebird.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:14 PM
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Yep, and Dave says "We're listening to the enthusiasts" but then says "It's a done deal" So he basically said we own the name, screw you guys we want money!!
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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I bet that was a typo. People were probably saying a Firehawk should not be a 4 door sedan, and he was replying as to say yeah, it's a 4 door, but it's supercharged and based on the GXP... (at least that would be my guess from context, without reading the link).

We found out about this Firehawk thing at the Camaroz28.com summit last Friday. I knew this was going to **** off the Firehawk owners. Not sure what they are thinking with this idea...

Not to mention, you'll be able to get a Firehawk package on the V6 and GT, as well, not just on the GXP.

Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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No it wasn't a type. His next post was "Whoops let the cat out of the bag on that one, the Firehawk will be sold overseas as well"

Which in turn means he supposidly meant the Holden Coupe60 (which is concept and no approved for production). Of course it is all gone now because of the censorship at LS1tech, but maybe the black surburbans will take Dave away before he ruins the Firehawk name.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:26 PM
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Not sure if it is slip up or not. He never really said there is going to be a G8 coupe from what I read.

Kind of sad to see the Firehawk moniker on something other than a Firebird.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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No, but he confirmed that there is a Holden Commodore coupe coming. Which makes a "case" for a G8 coupe, but there will not ever be one in the US anyways.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 02:47 PM
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that is fking ridiculous! screw you SLP!
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mustangmuncher
No it wasn't a type. His next post was "Whoops let the cat out of the bag on that one, the Firehawk will be sold overseas as well"

Which in turn means he supposidly meant the Holden Coupe60 (which is concept and no approved for production). Of course it is all gone now because of the censorship at LS1tech, but maybe the black surburbans will take Dave away before he ruins the Firehawk name.
Ah, I see.

Either way, as much as I love the G8, I don't see the Firehawk name. Even if it were OK, it would only be OK if it were available only as a GXP. How lame to have a V6 Firehawk get absolutely crushed by a standard G8 GT. In F-body times, the Firehawk was at the top of the Firebird heirarchy. Kinda lame to make it a sticker package available on any level G8.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 03:07 PM
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Ah, I see.

Either way, as much as I love the G8, I don't see the Firehawk name. Even if it were OK, it would only be OK if it were available only as a GXP. How lame to have a V6 Firehawk get absolutely crushed by a standard G8 GT. In F-body times, the Firehawk was at the top of the Firebird heirarchy. Kinda lame to make it a sticker package available on any level G8.
I fully agree, I think it is an absolutely ridiculous way of getting some more money. It is sad that you have to try and rely on an old, successful name to try and make another go. As much as I want GM to succeed in every venture, I hope this new "Firehawk" flops, and flops hard.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:23 PM
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Regardless if the name fits the car or not, why would some of you guys think a business wouldn't want and need to make money? There is no Firebird for them to make money from, so they have to go where they can. They did the same thing earlier with Ford and Dodge aftermarket parts. That is what a business does.

BTW...it will be MUCH more than just a "sticker package".
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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I'm all for SLP making money, but why, IMO, dilute the Firehawk brand by putting it on something, again IMO, that is not worthy?

They could have come up with some other name for their performance packages for the G8 et al and saved themselves from the backlash.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:50 PM
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A few points come to mind:

1. I don't think "Firehawk" is that much of a hallowed, historically-significant name. Certainly not on the level of brining back "GTO" or "Chevelle". It was a rather obscure option on a slow-selling performance car, not a cultural icon or anything.

2. Seems that any time any company brings back any name, there's going to be a pack of people complain that the new model doesn't do it justice, it should just rest in peace, yada yada yada. Well, sorry to bust their bubble, but it can never be exactly the way it was lo those many years ago and people need to realize times change. And corporations have businesses to run, hopefully profitably.

3. I don't get the obsession over the number of doors a car has. If the car is good looking and performs well, it doesn't matter to me if there's 4 doors or 2. Four doors actually makes it more usable. And if people want to get into semantics, they should really learn the correct definition of a "coupe" first, something which a 2-door G8 likely would not be.
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by R377
A few points come to mind:

1. I don't think "Firehawk" is that much of a hallowed, historically-significant name. Certainly not on the level of brining back "GTO" or "Chevelle". It was a rather obscure option on a slow-selling performance car, not a cultural icon or anything.

2. Seems that any time any company brings back any name, there's going to be a pack of people complain that the new model doesn't do it justice, it should just rest in peace, yada yada yada. Well, sorry to bust their bubble, but it can never be exactly the way it was lo those many years ago and people need to realize times change. And corporations have businesses to run, hopefully profitably.

3. I don't get the obsession over the number of doors a car has. If the car is good looking and performs well, it doesn't matter to me if there's 4 doors or 2. Four doors actually makes it more usable. And if people want to get into semantics, they should really learn the correct definition of a "coupe" first, something which a 2-door G8 likely would not be.
So do you agree or disagree that it is a bad idea to use the Firehawk name on the V6 model?
Old Sep 22, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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I don't like them using the Firehawk name on anything but a Firebird. I own one of rarest Firehawks ever produced and it just doesn't seem right. But yes, they do own the rights to the name, but I personally think it sounds silly for that particular car. It is next to impossible to think of Firehawk and not think of Firebird.

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