I definitely like your Z28 8cyl H.O. "stripper" (think 1LE) idea.

 

my fingers are crossed

 

Remember that "stripper" doesnt always mean "cheaper".

RS could be a trim package that would upgrade the base coupe to cool items such as 17's, stereo, appearance package, upgraded interior, etc.

A 1LE package would be great, and something that GMPD could really work on. Id probably shed some tears if I saw a Z28 running around the 'Ring, testing the 1LE.

 

I'm suprised at how many people are willing to give up power locks and windows, the most basic creature comforts, just for a couple of pounds of weight off. It won't matter much if they put a 400HP LS2 in it.

 

it's not just about shaving weight. i'm 25 and i love road racing and drag racing, but i do drive my cars year round. i just could care less about all the accesories. i have 6 cars and a motorcycle, only 2 of those have power anything.

i know. in fact, it costs more to engineer vehicles WITHOUT accesories if they are prebuilt to have them. i just always had a fondness for that bare bones kind of car. like i said, i could care less about climate control and one touch power down windows.

 

So long as I can get one with SOME v8 (or badass FI V6), rwd. MANUAL TRANS. I'm good.

I need A/C, but it does not need to be fancy, I can work my own climate setting without a digital readout.

I dont need NAV. Sure offer it as an option, but make it easy to get without ok?
Heated mirror and seats-----dont need those either. Like I said, let them be an OPTION

 

-6cyl - the 6cyl car should be good looking but distinctly different from most 8 cyl models and top models, offer a good range of options, wheels, interior upgrades, etc.

-8cyl - SS or RS or Z28 or whatever, distinctly different from the 6cyl car with performance to match, can be optioned like a base 6cyl car to near the level of the top lvl 8cyl car (minus powertrain)

-8cyl, call it ZL1 or Z28 or whatever makes f-body guys salivate, distinctly different from regular 8cyl car with no options, top perf car loaded to the gills with only a few options (t-tops and all that crud)

A gozillion mutations of packaging and equipment is gonna add cost and weight, 35 years ago the automotive industry didn't have to worry about emmisions, fuel conservation and saftey. Today having a huge range of equipment and options (engine, suspension, body, etc) adds cost because these various mutations have to be tested for emmisions, conservation, and safety, all adding to the engineered cost of the car and the amount of time it takes to recoupe that cost. Not to mention the added cost and weight of building in the basic structure and equipment to support those gozillion options.

Look at onboard navigation for instance? Do you put it in the center stack or put it in the insturment pod? if its an option then what do you do with the space in the non navi cars in an asthetically pleasing fashion? Or power door and power windows? without doubt the wiring harness will be in there for it(and wires are heavy), but then you have to add structure to the door to handle both types of systems so what is the net increase/decrease in weight? Same with all those me likey features like heated seats, etc.

I'm not advocating a clapped out stripper that goes like stink but foregoes creature comforts or a bloated pig that needs an LS7 to crack the 14's either, but realize that this car has to compete in the 19 to 40k which is alot of space to cover.

 

When there are only 2 doors on a car, power locks arent really that much more convenient. Maybe for remote use with the fob, but whatever.

I would actually prefer to have a stripper. My car was one but the guy who repaired it put the power windows, locks, mirrors on it. Its always a smooth 100lbs (and NO less) lighter than anything else in the same year model. No t-tops, fog lights, power seat, leather, and cruise control. Just an exrta tenth or 2 at the track.

 

Today's cars are more and more switching to a keyless technology with push button start. That means as long as you have the key with the chip in it as you approach the car, it will unlock. If you sit behind the wheel you just need to push the start button as long as you have the key. Like it or not, it will probably be standard on most vehicles by the time Camaro returns.

 

[QUOTE=bosscoI'm not advocating a clapped out stripper that goes like stink but foregoes creature comforts or a bloated pig that needs an LS7 to crack the 14's either, but realize that this car has to compete in the 19 to 40k which is alot of space to cover.[/QUOTE]

which is why i said we should have choices like the 3rd gen had. with a nice 6 car choice, that would definetley cover that price range nicely. i never like the fact there were only slow fast and fastest for the 4th gens.