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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:38 PM
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Ford to recall around 109,664 police cars

http://www.usatoday.com/money/autos/...s_N.htm?csp=26

DETROIT (AP) — Ford Motor (F) next week will begin recalling as many as 109,664 Crown Victoria police cars because cracks can develop in their steel wheels that could cause rapid air loss in tires during high-speed pursuits.
The recall affects certain 2003-2005 models, but the cracks have been reported in only a small percentage of the wheels. The wheels previously were covered by an extended warranty program, Daniel Smith, Ford's associate director for safety assurance, said in a letter dated last Thursday to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Ford spokesman Dan Jarvis said police departments have reported two crashes which they attributed to the wheel problem, but Ford is disputing those claims. The crashes did not cause any injuries, he said.

The cracks can form near the weld line that connects the rim to the wheel disk, NHTSA said.

The stress on wheels during high-speed pursuits is much greater because of techniques used by police, according to Ford.

Starting Monday, dealers will inspect and replace the wheels and spares based on the wheel part numbers. The company said owners will be notified and told to take the cars to a dealership.

"Although Ford has not identified an unreasonable risk to safety from this condition, we have decided to conduct this voluntary safety recall to avoid a protracted dispute with the agency," Smith's letter to NHTSA said.

The Crown Victoria Police Interceptors were build from Oct. 10, 2001 through Dec. 8, 2004 at an assembly plant in St. Thomas, Ontario, the letter said.

Police departments can call Ford at (800) 392-3673 or contact their local dealers to see if the recall applies to their cars.

Ford in August 2003 voluntarily recalled wheels on cars made before Sept. 23, 2002 and extended the wheel warranties on those made from that date until April 23, 2003.

NHTSA opened an investigation into the recall in December 2004, Smith's letter said.

The number of cruisers actually recalled will be much lower than 109,664, because many of the cars are no longer in use as police pursuit vehicles and because such a small percentage of the wheels have developed cracks, Jarvis said.

"This recall only affects current, active police pursuit vehicles," Jarvis said.

The Crown Victoria, a popular choice for many police departments, was at the center of a 2003 debate over whether its rear gas tank was vulnerable to rupture in accidents.

At the time, some police department and elected officials complained that the number of officers who died in post-crash fires in Crown Victorias pointed to a serious design flaw in the vehicle. The carmaker agreed to offer shields for gas tanks on police cruisers.

Ford repeatedly has maintained that the Crown Victoria is safe.

Looks like we can all speed a little more.
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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They had this same recall a couple of years ago in 2005. We had several of our cars wheels replaced back then.

Is this a new recall? Or an posting of the old one?
Old Mar 13, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 30thZ286speed
They had this same recall a couple of years ago in 2005. We had several of our cars wheels replaced back then.

Is this a new recall? Or an posting of the old one?
"Ford in August 2003 voluntarily recalled wheels on cars made before Sept. 23, 2002 and extended the wheel warranties on those made from that date until April 23, 2003."

This recall "extends" the first one to include models up to 8Dec04.

It is voluntary on Ford's part - commendable IMO.
In this day and age, it's political suicide to try to hide what is likely a problem. Go ahead and admit it, fess up to it, make it right, and move on.

Interesting thing is Ford is still pretty much on a spotless record from 2005 'til present. That's INSANE for Ford!
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by ProudPony
"Ford in August 2003 voluntarily recalled wheels on cars made before Sept. 23, 2002 and extended the wheel warranties on those made from that date until April 23, 2003."

This recall "extends" the first one to include models up to 8Dec04.

It is voluntary on Ford's part - commendable IMO.
In this day and age, it's political suicide to try to hide what is likely a problem. Go ahead and admit it, fess up to it, make it right, and move on.

Interesting thing is Ford is still pretty much on a spotless record from 2005 'til present. That's INSANE for Ford!
You know, as far as I can remember, this is the only actual recall on any Ford made since at least 2002..... 5 years (if not longer)!

Yet, we still hear in the editorials and press how Japanese cars are better made(Toyota, Nissan, & Honda have had quite a few since then).
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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Recalls are not nor have they ever been the exclusive domain of the domestic manufacturers (of course, these cars were all made in Canada so go figure). At any rate, every manufacturer is looking for ways to cut their per-unit costs and a lot of that is accomplished by pressure on suppliers.

Manufacturers are squeezing suppliers so hard that many suppliers are going under or teetering on the edge as they try to squeeze those below them…work is being pushed off-shore or, in some cases, suppliers are simply cutting corners…I predict we are going to start seeing a lot more recalls and/or continuously increasing warranty repair costs until someone wakes up and realizes that corners can only be cut so far.
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_Nashville:
Manufacturers are squeezing suppliers so hard that many suppliers are going under or teetering on the edge as they try to squeeze those below them…work is being pushed off-shore or, in some cases, suppliers are simply cutting corners…I predict we are going to start seeing a lot more recalls and/or continuously increasing warranty repair costs until someone wakes up and realizes that corners can only be cut so far.
Exactly...somewhere along the line they saved just a little too much on those rims, and it cost them.

Suppliers have to cut costs, meet growing demands, and then think about how high of a quality specification they can "afford"...I feel for them.

There's always that balance between, production numbers and quality...nothing's perfect, so how much imperfection will be acceptable?
I have seen standards lowered..."temporarily"...when the rejects number too high.
But obviously a wheel is nowhere to be lowering specs or cutting costs..
Old Mar 18, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
You know, as far as I can remember, this is the only actual recall on any Ford made since at least 2002..... 5 years (if not longer)!
I worked at a ford dealership for a little while and they have had PLENTY of recalls as of late. some examples that come to mind are: Brake light switch causeing the truck to catch fire(that one kille a few people), The front springs on Torus's braking whuch wouyld cut the front tires and caused the car to crash, some of their air filters some how caused the cars to catch fire (i never could figure that one out).
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Originally Posted by mdenz3
I worked at a ford dealership for a little while and they have had PLENTY of recalls as of late. some examples that come to mind are: Brake light switch causeing the truck to catch fire(that one kille a few people), The front springs on Torus's braking whuch wouyld cut the front tires and caused the car to crash, some of their air filters some how caused the cars to catch fire (i never could figure that one out).
We're not saying they have not had recalls... we are saying that the new vehicles - ones redesigned and released since 2005 - have not had any recalls, and they haven't. The recalls we are hearing about (yours included) are on vehicles designed in the 90s and early 2000's, and basically built prior to 2005.
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A, just give ford some time. B. it said 2002
Old Mar 19, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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We got our recall letters in the mail today, good thing were going back with CV Police Interceptors for 2007 .

Actually our Impala 9C1s have been problem prone very early on. So far I am very disappointed with them. Don't get me wrong, I like the way they drive, handle, accelerate, brake....it does these things way better than the Crown Vic. but the rash of problems were having is unacceptable.

The main reason we are going back to the Crown Vic is that we have a new Sheriff this year and he likes the CV better.
Old Mar 20, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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The front springs on Torus's braking whuch wouyld cut the front tires and caused the car to crash, some of their air filters some how caused the cars to catch fire (i never could figure that one out).
I have noticed a tight clearance between the bottom of the strut and the tire, adding an oversized tired would be disasterous...the ones I saw were '90's models.

But there are just as many for foreign and domestic as said...
I think it says good things about any company that puts consumer safety over "saving face" or saving dollars..
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