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Ford 2011 5.0 Supercharger package 624hp!

Old Aug 24, 2010 | 08:04 AM
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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c6-f...-and-pics.html forall the talk around here about bolting on an LS9 blower you might want to read this link here is a breakdown for you guys throwing around the $6500 total your a bit off, granted this is for a Vette but a lot is the same with the Camaro,
There's been a lot of LS9 supercharger hype since GMPP released their "kit". I'm glad to see them offering all the head-unit pieces as a kit, but there's a lot more parts needed for an installation.

I have been gathering LS9 supercharger parts for 6 months, Big Thanks to Kevin at Parts Taxi for all his help. I have everything thats included in the new GMPP kit, and most of everything else thats needed. Here's a quick list of everything needed, including the GMPP kit.

LS9 Supercharger kit 19244103 $6500
LS9 Accessory drive kit 19243524 (alt, ps, ac, pullies...) $1872
Crank Balancer (custom ATI part for short wet sump crank) $700
Alternator Bracket 12602289 $120
Valve covers/gaskets 12602209, 12602208, 12612045 $295
Power steering hoses 15926148, 15925778 $110
Upper radiator hose 19130526 $34
LS9 water pump 12622036 $435

Factory stuff is at $10,066 and you still need a heat exchanger, intercooler pump, IC reservoir and hoses for the intercooler system. Factory pieces are:

Intercooler pump 15870574 $880
Heat Exchanger 15870557 $240
Reservoir 25948317 $190
Hoses $150
These pieces total $1460
I am going with a Bosch pump, fluidyne heat exchanger and Moroso reservoir, nylon braided lines... ($750 total)


Factory stuff is at $11,500 and theres a few more odds and ends needed...Not to mention a new hood and air cleaner assy
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Why would anyone spend that kind of money on a blower you can get for your specific application right from MagnaCharger....for a lot cheaper

While I'm impressed with what Ford continues to do with the new Mustang, it's not like you couldn't do the same or better by slapping a blower on your LS3 powered car. See the (RWHP) numbers in my sig...basically a stock LS2 with a much less efficient 8.5psi.
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by STOCK1SC
GM doesn't sell anything but the supercharger, you have to get it tuned yourself with no testing from GM on the Camaro, GM isn't supporting the Camaro anywhere near the way Ford does with the Mustang. Not to mention that pesky little 300lb weight difference between the 2 cars.
It's more like 200-250 lbs in the V8 cars, but your point still stands.
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 09:55 AM
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Kudos to Ford for staying on their game. Reminds me a bit of what GM did with the 2.0 turbo upgrade kits they were offering. Too bad I had no use for vert, and I'm not going to ever get into a Cobalt though.
I went with the upgrade kit and an GM 0 deductable extended waranty to 96K miles on my sky redline.

I really like the new GT, and love the red Boss. But if adding the blower drops your waranty down to 12/12K I would have to skip it. I drive 20K a year.
Old Aug 24, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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Too bad because you are actually missing out on one of GM's best performance vehicles. Ask anyone auto-xing what they think about the Cobalt SS.
Light + short + sticky tires = Good autocross car

I know a guy who has a bone stock Ford Escort (roundy version) who knocks out some extremely impressive AX times Why? he is a good driver and runs the stickiest tires he can in class.

A full road course is a much better determiner of overall performance. (which the Cobalt SS does very well)
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 06:00 AM
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Light + short + sticky tires = Good autocross car

I know a guy who has a bone stock Ford Escort (roundy version) who knocks out some extremely impressive AX times Why? he is a good driver and runs the stickiest tires he can in class.

A full road course is a much better determiner of overall performance. (which the Cobalt SS does very well)
Cobalt SS = one of the most underappriciated and underrated cars of modern times.

It still baffles the dailights out of me that GM decided to essentially abandon this car instead of continuing to develop it.

Reminds me of Chrysler making that Neon-based, phenominal, SRT-4

Underrated, plenty of extra power available with factory kits, plenty of street cred with import fans...... but then Chrysler simply walked away from it all..... for a Caliber SRT4???!!

If nothing else, GM needs to continue the Cobalt name in a 2 door and continue the turbo SS.

Yes, it's THAT good...... drive one!
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Cobalt SS = one of the most underappriciated and underrated cars of modern times.

It still baffles the dailights out of me that GM decided to essentially abandon this car instead of continuing to develop it.

Reminds me of Chrysler making that Neon-based, phenominal, SRT-4

Underrated, plenty of extra power available with factory kits, plenty of street cred with import fans...... but then Chrysler simply walked away from it all..... for a Caliber SRT4???!!

If nothing else, GM needs to continue the Cobalt name in a 2 door and continue the turbo SS.

Yes, it's THAT good...... drive one!
Yeah having owned a 2002 Z28, a 2005 SRT-4, and this 2009 Cobalt SS sedan I can honestly say the Cobalt is better than the other 2 for an all around vehicle package. The Z was faster but not by that much, the Cobalt handles so much better and is more fun to drive, plus it's stealthy since they only made around 500 of the sedans, I have yet to see another one on the road in the past year.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:08 AM
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A lot of the car guys around here have HHR SS's as DD. It makes sense though. Plenty of room with fold down seats. Plenty of power with a great power curve and great gas mileage.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
If nothing else, GM needs to continue the Cobalt name in a 2 door and continue the turbo SS.

Yes, it's THAT good...... drive one!
That would be a good idea.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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A lot of the car guys around here have HHR SS's as DD. It makes sense though. Plenty of room with fold down seats. Plenty of power with a great power curve and great gas mileage.

The HHR SS is one of the best packages which Chevy has put together in a loooong time. Too bad they're killing it.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Cobalt SS = one of the most underappriciated and underrated cars of modern times.

It still baffles the dailights out of me that GM decided to essentially abandon this car instead of continuing to develop it.

Reminds me of Chrysler making that Neon-based, phenominal, SRT-4

Underrated, plenty of extra power available with factory kits, plenty of street cred with import fans...... but then Chrysler simply walked away from it all..... for a Caliber SRT4???!!

If nothing else, GM needs to continue the Cobalt name in a 2 door and continue the turbo SS.

Yes, it's THAT good...... drive one!
I nearly bought one. Silver Sedan without the crazy spoiler. Had the dealer down under $20,000 with 0% financing. Decided buying a house was more important. I really want one to daily drive.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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I'm not trying to get off subject, but the I think the problem with the Cobalt and the HHR SS was the total package. The car had awesome performance, but the interior's just weren't up to par with other cars in the segment. Performance can always be upgraded beyond what the factory gives you, but your dash board and door panels aren't such an easy switch. Just like the 4th gen, this works for people who prioritize performance over all else... but for everyone else the car just lacks appeal. Unfortunately, neither of those cars had the history, street cred or potential of an Evo, a car who's interior also suffer's at the expense of performance. (and the Cobalt was quicker than the Evo X around a track out the box!)

I'd also add that the HHR's styling was very polarizing. I have a lot of car buddies ranging in age from ~21-30 and none of these guys would be caught dead in that thing! I really only see older guys driving them. It was like a PT Cruiser competitor that came out way too late.

The new Mustang is changing the game big time. Best in class interior and performance. If I was shopping for a $30,000 coupe, I'd have a hard time finding big faults with the Mustang's package vs the competition.
Old Aug 25, 2010 | 08:39 PM
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The new Mustang is changing the game big time. Best in class interior and performance. If I was shopping for a $30,000 coupe, I'd have a hard time finding big faults with the Mustang's package vs the competition.
Thank you Chevrolet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Aug 26, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by guionM
Cobalt SS = one of the most underappriciated and underrated cars of modern times.

It still baffles the dailights out of me that GM decided to essentially abandon this car instead of continuing to develop it.

Reminds me of Chrysler making that Neon-based, phenominal, SRT-4

Underrated, plenty of extra power available with factory kits, plenty of street cred with import fans...... but then Chrysler simply walked away from it all..... for a Caliber SRT4???!!

If nothing else, GM needs to continue the Cobalt name in a 2 door and continue the turbo SS.

Yes, it's THAT good...... drive one!
I take offense to that because my Caliber stock to stock will destroy a Neon SRT4 on any given course. The motor and turbo combination in my car produces a underrated 285hp from the factory and with a stage 1 ECU its game over for any stock or stage 1 Neon variant. They haven't even cracked the PCM on this car due to low production volume and there are a few very high 500hp cars and one rumored over 600.

Looks....eh its love it or hate it. I just needed something with seats for a family and the ability to drive in the snow.

Overall the interior is meh. But I can say once you get the torque steer under control this car is scary fast with modifications.

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Old Aug 27, 2010 | 01:02 AM
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I dunno about that. The Calibur does have a fairly substantial list of advantages... better engine, better turbo, better transmission, and better chassis. But it isn't all one sided. Proper LSD was dumped for BS brake-fake LSD. Steering is not as precise as in the Neon by most accounts, and the due to the size it isn't as tossable as the Neon. FWIW, when C&D tested the Caliber it was a few tenths slower in the 1/4 although it had the same trap as the Neon.

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