First OFFICIAL pictures of 2004 GTO
I like it . Who cares if theres a slight looking resemblence in the front clip to a Grand Prix , the 97-02 GP's I think are still one of the best looking coupes on the road . Tasteful contemporary stying and one kick *** drivetrain , I dont see the problem
In concept , it is really everything the GTO was 
Bravo to pontiac for not turning this into a retro-job
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Derek 95 Trans Am convertible
K&N fipk , CSI h20 pump , hooker lt's , mufflex 4" , LT1edit , ET streets , 373's , !A/C , !smog
Best Et 12.771@106.89
Best 60ft. 1.820
MTI/GTP stage 3 LT4 heads , cc306 , hyra-rev , 1.6's , r lifters , full manual 700r4 , ST3500 verter , roll bar and more all in the garage waiting for install .
In concept , it is really everything the GTO was 
Bravo to pontiac for not turning this into a retro-job

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Derek 95 Trans Am convertible
K&N fipk , CSI h20 pump , hooker lt's , mufflex 4" , LT1edit , ET streets , 373's , !A/C , !smog
Best Et 12.771@106.89
Best 60ft. 1.820
MTI/GTP stage 3 LT4 heads , cc306 , hyra-rev , 1.6's , r lifters , full manual 700r4 , ST3500 verter , roll bar and more all in the garage waiting for install .
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 90 Z28SS:
Who cares if theres a slight looking resemblence in the front clip to a Grand Prix , the 97-02 GP's I think are still one of the best looking coupes on the road .
Bravo to pontiac for not turning this into a retro-job
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Who cares if theres a slight looking resemblence in the front clip to a Grand Prix , the 97-02 GP's I think are still one of the best looking coupes on the road .
Bravo to pontiac for not turning this into a retro-job

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Don't get me wrong, I like the way it looks... pretty much because I like the way the Grand Prix looks, but sense the Prix has been out 7-8 years now, and it hasnt changed at all itself, this 'new' GTO is going to look outdated by the time it is launched.

[This message has been edited by Darth Xed (edited June 20, 2002).]
If GM is listening.. How about some more ANGLES and less CURVES on the front and rear clips? the "bubble" look may not be completely removable, but for crying out loud at least redesign the headlights and taillights a bit. more edges. less curves. there is NO way to discern this from a Monaro except the front grill and name badges. Everything else is identical. From the front it looks exactly like a Grand Prix. AT least incorporate an optional dual snorkel Ram Air hood into that grill design, 4th gen T/A style, 1971 GTO style. I don't even care if it's functional or fake, just add it as an option. And why is it that the ***-ugly concept SUV's get some interesting angular lines (Piranha, Asstech), not interesting designs but interesting lines, angles, edges, distinctions, while all the production models get the same sleep-inducing windswept bubble look with a happy face built into the front, back, or both? GM is still going off track slowly but surely.. Better keep redesigning that thing.. I hope the preview pic is NOT what the production looks like. Having said that, the fact is that it will sell all units either way because it has the clever balance of being a Jennifer car and a muscle car at the same time (something with which the Mustang has been directly on-target), and Jennifer is where hi-production numbers happen, although she prefers a V6. But as is shown there, it has no niche appeal. The real question is whether or not it'll be collectible in 20 years. The car in that pic will NOT be. Keep working.
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I go along with earlier comments from CLEAN, CHRIS 96 WS6, Z284EVER. I think it looks great. The aftermarket suppliers will provide more if you want to get more aggresive looking. I don't know what you expect from a stop gap vehicle. GM is not going to completely redesign the dang thing....geeezzz.
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1997 Formula: Black, M6, !CAGS, Flowmaster muffler, Moroso CAI, Meziere water pump, TB bypass, 160 stat
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1997 Formula: Black, M6, !CAGS, Flowmaster muffler, Moroso CAI, Meziere water pump, TB bypass, 160 stat
Nobody asked for a complete redesign.. it does after all have to come from the same assembly line as the Monaro. but think of the f-body.. 2 pretty different designs, off the same line, somewhat different target audiences, yet both profitable. I'm not asking for a complete design, but I'm asking for *distinction* .. people want that.
I LOVE IT!
I mean a little more heritage would've been nice, and the Ram Air hood would be awesome. BUT I think Pontiac did a great job, given what they had, and I'm sure they'll sell every one of them.
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"THE F_O_G HAS RISEN, AND WITH IT BEGINS THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA."
1967-2002, Thanks for 35 years of prestige and performance...... We look forward to the FUTURE.
I mean a little more heritage would've been nice, and the Ram Air hood would be awesome. BUT I think Pontiac did a great job, given what they had, and I'm sure they'll sell every one of them.
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"THE F_O_G HAS RISEN, AND WITH IT BEGINS THE DAWN OF A NEW ERA."
1967-2002, Thanks for 35 years of prestige and performance...... We look forward to the FUTURE.
Hmm...
Of all the choices available to keep costs down - they really only changed the grille -nice work. The look fits confortably into the current Pontiac family of cars, but maintains some individual identity. Sure it's front clip resembles Grand Prix GTP - a good looking car (from the front), but isn't that what brand identity is about? I can certainly see this car having good MASS appeal. we F-Body folks can be a very demanding bunch, but this is NOT a bad looking car...
If this GTO's got it where it counts I'll buy one - there's a space for it right next to the Trans Am.
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Jason96T/A
1996 Trans Am
Lingenfelter CAI
Aftermarket Exhaust
Of all the choices available to keep costs down - they really only changed the grille -nice work. The look fits confortably into the current Pontiac family of cars, but maintains some individual identity. Sure it's front clip resembles Grand Prix GTP - a good looking car (from the front), but isn't that what brand identity is about? I can certainly see this car having good MASS appeal. we F-Body folks can be a very demanding bunch, but this is NOT a bad looking car...
If this GTO's got it where it counts I'll buy one - there's a space for it right next to the Trans Am.

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Jason96T/A
1996 Trans Am
Lingenfelter CAI
Aftermarket Exhaust
It'll sell out for sure, especially at ~ 20k units. Maybe I came off a bit negative, but I'm excited about it, especially after seeing that burnout vid of the HSV Clubsport on a recent thread. It's the closest yet to a GTO in action
Follow up to my older thread, but doesnt the front clip remind of youa z3, just stretched the heck out? =)
really really like it.!
so yeah, next car, Infinity G35 Coupe, or This baby. But you got to admit, nothing better than a grocery getter that hauls major ***.
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93 Patriot Red Z28 - A4, 3.23 Gears
*Mods*: Hooker Super Competition Catback, Holley 58MM Throttle Body, Holley Powershot Filter, 160* Thermostat, A. Anderson Programming Chip, Aeromaks Cold Air Intake System
Audio: JVC KDSH77 HU, Infiniti Kappa 6.5"
Max's Patriot Red 93 Z
Time: 14.052@98.23, 2.193 60', Street Tires, Hot & Humid
really really like it.!
so yeah, next car, Infinity G35 Coupe, or This baby. But you got to admit, nothing better than a grocery getter that hauls major ***.
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93 Patriot Red Z28 - A4, 3.23 Gears
*Mods*: Hooker Super Competition Catback, Holley 58MM Throttle Body, Holley Powershot Filter, 160* Thermostat, A. Anderson Programming Chip, Aeromaks Cold Air Intake System
Audio: JVC KDSH77 HU, Infiniti Kappa 6.5"
Max's Patriot Red 93 Z
Time: 14.052@98.23, 2.193 60', Street Tires, Hot & Humid
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by FormulaLT1:
I go along with earlier comments from CLEAN, CHRIS 96 WS6, Z284EVER. I think it looks great. The aftermarket suppliers will provide more if you want to get more aggresive looking. I don't know what you expect from a stop gap vehicle. GM is not going to completely redesign the dang thing....geeezzz.
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I go along with earlier comments from CLEAN, CHRIS 96 WS6, Z284EVER. I think it looks great. The aftermarket suppliers will provide more if you want to get more aggresive looking. I don't know what you expect from a stop gap vehicle. GM is not going to completely redesign the dang thing....geeezzz.
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I love the sleeper look, just like the origional GTOs which passed as a run of the mill Pontiac Tempest till the driver put his foot down. This car is exactly the same way.
LT1s had dual scoops, albiet non-functional. 
Thats all I really want to see. Not a big, in your face scoop as in the SS or T/A, but something subtle, something to break up the huge expanse of boring hood, maybe even just a crease down the center or something.
However, for the price range, make the damn thing functional if you do add it GM...
BTW, Im suprised noone caught on that the pic is either a drawing, photoshopped, or both...Its a concept guys...
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Thats all I really want to see. Not a big, in your face scoop as in the SS or T/A, but something subtle, something to break up the huge expanse of boring hood, maybe even just a crease down the center or something.
However, for the price range, make the damn thing functional if you do add it GM...
BTW, Im suprised noone caught on that the pic is either a drawing, photoshopped, or both...Its a concept guys...

[This message has been edited by MissedShift (edited June 20, 2002).]
Some sort of scoop or vents on the hood would be cool, but every tiny little styling change requires lots of $$$. I can only imagine how much the price of each car would go up if they had to amortize the cost of new hood tooling. And if its non-functional I'd rather not have it anyway. Non-Functional = gimmicky (I say that even though I LOVE the hood louvers on an IROC).
The car is already looking like its going to be $35K, another styling change or two and it would cost the same as a vette.
I think it looks clean and tasteful, which is exactly what the 35-50 yr olds with that kind of money to spend want.
The car is already looking like its going to be $35K, another styling change or two and it would cost the same as a vette.
I think it looks clean and tasteful, which is exactly what the 35-50 yr olds with that kind of money to spend want.
When I see a real pic then I will throw in my opinion. Maybe this is just a leak to see what people will think if they decide to go this direction. I think that front end will be ok if it looks llike this from the side http://www.depaulachevrolet.com/main.jpg
I would like to see a Ram Air hood and the spoiler in the above picture.
I would like to see a Ram Air hood and the spoiler in the above picture.


