Exhaust system-related fires prompt Mazda to recall, halt production of Mazda5
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Exhaust system-related fires prompt Mazda to recall, halt production of Mazda5
I know there's a hurricane out there...but I didn't see this on ONE web news site....
http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103231
Exhaust system-related fires prompt Mazda to recall, halt production of Mazda5
MARK RECHTIN | Automotive News
Posted Date: 9/23/05
LOS ANGELES -- Mazda Motor Corp. has stopped production globally of the 2006 Mazda5 minivan and has recalled 2,700 units in North America for exhaust system-related fires.
Mazda's North American auto dealers have been ordered to stop selling the minivan until the cause of the fires has been found and a solution is in place.
Three fires due to heat buildup in the system have been reported. The six-seater went on sale in June in the United States.
Customers were told to return their vehicles immediately. They will be given replacement transportation at no cost. Mazda has told customers they will be without their Mazda5s for at least 30 days.
A Mazda spokesman said the production halt affects all Mazda5 vehicles globally. But Japan and Europe have not issued recalls or stop-sale orders, as those countries' versions have different engine specifications and engine management control units. The spokesman said that the cause of the fires has not been determined.
MARK RECHTIN | Automotive News
Posted Date: 9/23/05
LOS ANGELES -- Mazda Motor Corp. has stopped production globally of the 2006 Mazda5 minivan and has recalled 2,700 units in North America for exhaust system-related fires.
Mazda's North American auto dealers have been ordered to stop selling the minivan until the cause of the fires has been found and a solution is in place.
Three fires due to heat buildup in the system have been reported. The six-seater went on sale in June in the United States.
Customers were told to return their vehicles immediately. They will be given replacement transportation at no cost. Mazda has told customers they will be without their Mazda5s for at least 30 days.
A Mazda spokesman said the production halt affects all Mazda5 vehicles globally. But Japan and Europe have not issued recalls or stop-sale orders, as those countries' versions have different engine specifications and engine management control units. The spokesman said that the cause of the fires has not been determined.
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only recalled 2,700 units and you want national media coverage?
my old high school had more students than total units recalled by this
my old high school had more students than total units recalled by this
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It was the 1st of the production run...they recalled all of them.
If an American car was released and started to burn to the ground, you can bet your @$$ they'd have coverage.....imagine if this was the "new" Camaro....they'd be all over it as yet another example of failed American engineering.
If an American car was released and started to burn to the ground, you can bet your @$$ they'd have coverage.....imagine if this was the "new" Camaro....they'd be all over it as yet another example of failed American engineering.
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well.. at least they caught it quick enough to only affect 2700 vehicles..
although, you wonder how many caught on fire in such a short period of time that caused Mazda to react so quickly?
although, you wonder how many caught on fire in such a short period of time that caused Mazda to react so quickly?
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Originally Posted by Doug Harden
It was the 1st of the production run...they recalled all of them.
If an American car was released and started to burn to the ground, you can bet your @$$ they'd have coverage.....imagine if this was the "new" Camaro....they'd be all over it as yet another example of failed American engineering.
If an American car was released and started to burn to the ground, you can bet your @$$ they'd have coverage.....imagine if this was the "new" Camaro....they'd be all over it as yet another example of failed American engineering.
oh wait ... i'm going to go ahead and assume MEDIA BIAS! ahhh yes ...
where's the guy to bring up the honda oil filter fires? none of these threads can be complete without that.
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Re: Exhaust system-related fires prompt Mazda to recall, halt production of Mazda5
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whats your point?
oh wait ... i'm going to go ahead and assume MEDIA BIAS! ahhh yes ...
where's the guy to bring up the honda oil filter fires? none of these threads can be complete without that.
oh wait ... i'm going to go ahead and assume MEDIA BIAS! ahhh yes ...
where's the guy to bring up the honda oil filter fires? none of these threads can be complete without that.
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Originally Posted by anasazi
where's the guy to bring up the honda oil filter fires? none of these threads can be complete without that.
Amen.
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Originally Posted by anasazi
whats your point?
oh wait ... i'm going to go ahead and assume MEDIA BIAS! ahhh yes ...
where's the guy to bring up the honda oil filter fires? none of these threads can be complete without that.
oh wait ... i'm going to go ahead and assume MEDIA BIAS! ahhh yes ...
where's the guy to bring up the honda oil filter fires? none of these threads can be complete without that.
Maybe if you'd stop playing the smartass role for just a second you'd read what is in the article......they released a vehicle into production that is a fire hazard.
Where was the testing?
Hell, they haven't even figured out what the problem is YET.......
I simply pointed out the fact that no-one saw fit to tell anyone who might own one of these fireballs that they were in danger.
And you're blinder than you act if you don't think that if GM or Ford would have started selling cars that were a fire hazard, that all the networks would have jumped on it...
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Good point, Doug,
----you may recall how they took Ford to task AFTER they fixed the Crown Vics........by showing a pickup truck striking a crown vic at, as I recall, 70mph.......
----you may recall how they took Ford to task AFTER they fixed the Crown Vics........by showing a pickup truck striking a crown vic at, as I recall, 70mph.......
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Re: Exhaust system-related fires prompt Mazda to recall, halt production of Mazda5
Originally Posted by Doug Harden
Maybe if you'd stop playing the smartass role for just a second you'd read what is in the article......they released a vehicle into production that is a fire hazard.
Where was the testing?
Hell, they haven't even figured out what the problem is YET.......
I simply pointed out the fact that no-one saw fit to tell anyone who might own one of these fireballs that they were in danger.
And you're blinder than you act if you don't think that if GM or Ford would have started selling cars that were a fire hazard, that all the networks would have jumped on it...
Where was the testing?
Hell, they haven't even figured out what the problem is YET.......
I simply pointed out the fact that no-one saw fit to tell anyone who might own one of these fireballs that they were in danger.
And you're blinder than you act if you don't think that if GM or Ford would have started selling cars that were a fire hazard, that all the networks would have jumped on it...
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Re: Exhaust system-related fires prompt Mazda to recall, halt production of Mazda5
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I just heard about this in the last couple days, they've sold so few that at this point its more a sales problem than a service one. Can you imajine being a commision salesperson, and have someone ask to see/buy a car that you have sitting on the lot (I think we have about 15-20) and have to say "sorry we can't sell those at this time. Mazda Screwed up and they catch fire."???
At this point there is no fix yet, the problem being that the undercoating is melting and dripping down onto the exhaust and catching fire. Mazda seems to be learning from Ford pretty well how to make flammable cars that have issues at launch.
On a positieve note, the mini-minivans actually seem to be pretty good otherwise, I've only sat in a couple, but they seem well screwed together and have general feel to the materials as a Mazda 3.
I just heard about this in the last couple days, they've sold so few that at this point its more a sales problem than a service one. Can you imajine being a commision salesperson, and have someone ask to see/buy a car that you have sitting on the lot (I think we have about 15-20) and have to say "sorry we can't sell those at this time. Mazda Screwed up and they catch fire."???
At this point there is no fix yet, the problem being that the undercoating is melting and dripping down onto the exhaust and catching fire. Mazda seems to be learning from Ford pretty well how to make flammable cars that have issues at launch.
On a positieve note, the mini-minivans actually seem to be pretty good otherwise, I've only sat in a couple, but they seem well screwed together and have general feel to the materials as a Mazda 3.
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This is in now way a slight to GM, and is in no way an excuse for Mazda........... however............
GM did have a similar situation when they released the Trailblazer. There was a stop sale, stop drive, and return every unit to GM on a wrecker (in other words, do not drive it in) due to the front suspension failure. How many actually happened??? I don't know.
We all know how extensively vehicles are tested........... yet things like this can still squeek through.
My understanding on the Mazda thing, is that 3 cars caught on fire. This would apparently happen after very extensive idling (for an hour or more), where the exhaust would basically overheat, and then the undercoating thing would happen.
Anyway, it is never good when this happens............. for any manufacturer.
GM did have a similar situation when they released the Trailblazer. There was a stop sale, stop drive, and return every unit to GM on a wrecker (in other words, do not drive it in) due to the front suspension failure. How many actually happened??? I don't know.
We all know how extensively vehicles are tested........... yet things like this can still squeek through.
My understanding on the Mazda thing, is that 3 cars caught on fire. This would apparently happen after very extensive idling (for an hour or more), where the exhaust would basically overheat, and then the undercoating thing would happen.
Anyway, it is never good when this happens............. for any manufacturer.
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Re: Exhaust system-related fires prompt Mazda to recall, halt production of Mazda5
Originally Posted by 94LightningGal
This is in now way a slight to GM, and is in no way an excuse for Mazda........... however............
GM did have a similar situation when they released the Trailblazer. There was a stop sale, stop drive, and return every unit to GM on a wrecker (in other words, do not drive it in) due to the front suspension failure. How many actually happened??? I don't know.
GM did have a similar situation when they released the Trailblazer. There was a stop sale, stop drive, and return every unit to GM on a wrecker (in other words, do not drive it in) due to the front suspension failure. How many actually happened??? I don't know.
