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Dodge Challenger Super Stock Concept (video)

Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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At least they got rid of that ugly red, white, and blue paint job, but you are right, it still looks straight out of the 70s.
Which was the last time Dodge mattered, so its kinda fitting.
Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:36 PM
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It's possible that they'll offer the rearend via the Mopar Parts catalog (the motor is already available).
The car's apparently going to be live axle capable, so either that apparently is true (rear axle kit by catalogue) or there's going to be a production version with a live axle (which I'm not inclined to believe.... but if it can be done as a kit... ).

At any rate, there's going to be a pretty large Mopar Catalogue section for this ride.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:12 AM
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What kinda stuff like this is GM doing to promote the Camaro? Can't say that I have seen anything...
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by OutsiderIROC-Z
What kinda stuff like this is GM doing to promote the Camaro? Can't say that I have seen anything...
Because Dodge basically took an existing platform and made it look like a Challenger.

The Camaro is on an all-new platform that has not been developed yet. It is not a rehash of something else.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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You can say Camaro is a rehash of a Holden Commodore.

At any rate, having a car based on an chassis that's been around a few years has the benefit of coming into the world with an established partial aftermarket parts list.

Originally Posted by OutsiderIROC-Z
What kinda stuff like this is GM doing to promote the Camaro? Can't say that I have seen anything...
Camaro is a year behind the Challenger.

We'll certainly see a production Challenger less than a year from now during the auto show season, and you can probally bet the farm that Chevrolet will have some version of Camaro. But within weeks after seeing it, you will be able to walk into the showroom and buy a Challenger. You're going to have to wait almost nearly another year to buy the Camaro.

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by guionM
You can say Camaro is a rehash of a Holden Commodore.
Hahahaha...that's true...sorta. Not quite the same, but close, right? Good point regardless.

At any rate, having a car based on an chassis that's been around a few years has the benefit of coming into the world with an established partial aftermarket parts list.
In light of that, does it wind up being a disadvantage compared to the Challenger because the Holden is overseas and the 300 is not?
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by OutsiderIROC-Z
What kinda stuff like this is GM doing to promote the Camaro? Can't say that I have seen anything...
The Transformer's movie is getting people excited about the car.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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In light of that, does it wind up being a disadvantage compared to the Challenger because the Holden is overseas and the 300 is not?
I could see a few disadvantages. Like them doing the testing down there for instance then bringing it back up here for production. Do you bring the engineers back here to make sure things go smoothly at first, or do you throw them into the next Holden project? In the big picture though that has to pale in comparison to leveraging global resources. To pull the best from your companies all over the world and get them to work together is much better. Both in assets and people/engineers. Dont know how much Chrysler is doing it, but GM seems to be well ahead of Ford. Honestly I think above all else. Leveraging global assets will give GM the best cars of the big 3 and some serious contenders. I think it will play a major part in turning the company around.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 01:51 PM
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Did Jon Moss retire??
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 02:38 PM
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Did Jon Moss retire??
If I remember correctly, yes.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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If GM had an active RWD platform that is worthy of putting the Camaro on now like DCX did for the Challenger we'd be see Chevy promote the car like they do. That being said showing the Camaro as a drag car at a track is not GM's style.
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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The Transformer's movie is getting people excited about the car.

yey....
Old Apr 20, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by OutsiderIROC-Z
yey....
while that idea may bore you... there is a huge fanbase of transformers out there, along with a whole new group of people that may only casually remember the franchise but will go to movie, and see the awesome car that is the camaro concept... there's no denying that it'll be good publicity
Old Apr 24, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Plague
This is all hype. Would it be any better if a "Camaro Super Stock Concept" had a ZZ572/720R, big tires, and a live axle? Production is not likely to be a thing like that concept (as far as drive train is concerned).
True about the hype, but nobody does that more than GM. I beleive the phrase was "Corporate Image Car". Supposed to sell the boaring stuff in the showroom I guess. Remember the black 4th gen ZL-1? The V8 rear wheel drive Monte Carlo? the ZZ-4.3 V-6 crate motor that was developed for S-10 replacement engines? I think there was even a big block Impala SS in 95.
All the manufacturers end up saying "this is just to show you what YOU could do to your own car". Uh huh with a million bucks and an engineering degree.

I love the Challenger and if it's not as over-inflated as most new "hot cars", I might get me one. If I don't, maybe I'll do like I did with the Camaro and get a real one (from back in the day).

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Old Apr 24, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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fanbase of transformers out there? That is Uber-gay
For those acting unimpressed, if it was the same video with a 5th gen Camaro instead of the Challenger you would be saying exactly the opposite.
That car is going to be such a hit, these new horsepower wars are going to be a blast!

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