I'm saying that the chassis on the Accord was given an extreme redesign for 2003 - whether the old one looks similar to the new one when you sit underneath it, I don't know. Doesn't really matter. The gains in chassis dynamics, bending rigidity, etc were huge and if you drive a 2002 side by side with a 2003 Accord you might not even guess the 2003 was a redesign of 02 if you didn't look at the styling and badges and such.

I just read in several different reviews that the chassis was essentially unchanged since the 1995 Aurora or whatever.

I don't know anything about the Lucerne which is why in the beginning I was positive toward it for the most part because I liked the styling and have always thought GM needed to filter down magnaride into other lower priced cars as soon as possible.

 

Give up.

 

Toyota shouldn't even give out brochures at car shows. They should just have Threxx shout buzz words and phrases at their displays.

 

What was your measurement methodology? What were the exact figures?

 

By his standards of a new car chassis, then the SN95 fits his description pretty nicely. The 94 stang's updated chassis did all of the things he mentioned in his post, and yet the SN95 stangs got hammered all the time for a platform that dated back to 79.

 

 

I second that, nice one!

 

When I saw your name on the reply I knew you'd be jacking someone off. I even just about guessed who. Idiot.

 

Seriously... haven't we had enough of the circle jerk and jacking off references already?

 

Seriously. These phrases seldom bely an intelligent arguement. You are doing yourself an poor service constantly referring to them.

 

I agree.

Oops!

 

Yes. Yes we have.

 

Oh yeah, I forgot. "Support group" Ooops.

 

Threxx, how is extremely frequent references to masturbating in any way, shape, or form helping your arguements here in the slightest. This thread is going down the toilet faster than the handle can be pressed, and it is because of posts filled with literary diarrhea. If you are "98 percent" sure of your previous claim, then where is your factual rebuttal to Centric? Hopefully we have been waiting for something more tangible than "I am pretty sure."

 

My sources are nearly every major editorial writeup and whitepaper I've read that state an all new chassis for 1998 on the accord and 2002 on the Camry.

His source is saying that they look similar underneath to him. I think both of our sources are potentially equally unreliable unless you want to talk to the engineers themselves, which is supposedly also be unreliable because they'll lie to you and tell you it's a ground-up redesign when supposedly it's just a refresh.

In other words there's no answer y'all are willing to accept.

And you might have noticed that the childish remark about my regurgitating buzzwords at Toyota displays for Toyota was what started this thread really going down the toilet.