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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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The common denominator between all Camaro generations is PERFORMANCE. That is its heritage, that's all I expect.
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Old Jan 18, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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That is what the next GTO is. Thats not the way to do it.
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by kizz
Now we know who needs to be made a saint and who needs to be drawn & quartered!
You'd be drawing & quartering the wrong guy.

John Cafaro worked for studio boss Chuck Jordan. It was Jordan's idea to stop everything in the studio, and take a design complete 4th generation Camaro, and graft the lay flat windshield on.

Yes, the reason the engine compartment looks like it was done as an afterthought is because.... it was!

Freezing the design studio may have also contributed to the years of delay of the C5 Corvette. If it wasn't for the delay & the cost of the change ($20,000,000 ) Corvette may have been in a position to continue towards production when GM began cancelling and delaying programs in the very early 90s, which killed Corvette more than once.

Ironically, his decision also contributed to the final decision to suspend the F4 before an F5 was ready.

(In case you're wondering, the windshield on the initial F4 was similar to the F3)
Old Jan 18, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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J Mays strikes me as a very pretentious man who is having to constantly blow smoke up Ford's posterior in order to keep his job. Aside from the 021C, what car has he actually designed? (The 2002 1955 Thunderbird and 2004.5 1964.5 Mustang do not count as being designed by him).
Old Jan 19, 2003 | 01:13 AM
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J Mays strikes me as a very pretentious man who is having to constantly blow smoke up Ford's posterior in order to keep his job. Aside from the 021C, what car has he actually designed? (The 2002 1955 Thunderbird and 2004.5 1964.5 Mustang do not count as being designed by him).
Judging by the reaction of not just Mustang fans, the press (including the non automotive guys) & the designer community, but also the seemingly unnaimous decision of Camaro fans and members here who have seen the car, he seems to have made the Mustang design a showstopper, that has alot of people considering jumping ship.

I'd say he designed the Mustang very well.

Seems by all who've seen it, he also designed the new F150s very well too.
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