I still want more I'm doing a Maggie this summer. My goal is 550 at the FW.

 

The LS2 is a really sweet motor. Not sure what the pic shows though....an LS2 is an LS2 - this one just appears to have a plastic cover on it to 'pretty it up.'

 

Cost more than an LS2? The car costs $52grand. Who cares what a SC Northstar costs? Ford stuck a motor that costs at least as much into a $32K '03/'04 Cobra.

I don't think CTS-V customers are pushover no nothings. They knew that LS6 CTS was something special for it's time. It had THE HOTTEST motor GM was making. Now GM wants to stuff the same motor that most people on here agree should be in the next Camaro Z28 into their German-killer uber car? And go slower than last model. An LS2 CTS-V is going to be a disappointment for upper class gear heads which are the target consumer.

 

First of all a S/C Northstar will not fit the CTS. Second---I suspect accountnats and marketing people do not want to add much to the price of a CTS-V

why would it be slower with the LS2? (vs the LS6 that is)

 

Well if it won't fit, then that's legit. I sure as heck wouldn't buy an '06 CTS-V. You'd kick yourself coming and going on that deal. Slower than last years model and then BAM the '07 model is packing a 500hp LS7!

There's little doubt today that the LS2 Vette is significantly slower than the C5 Z06. Therefore, the LS6 CTS-V will be a faster car than its replacement.

 

I will guarantee you the LS2 CTS-V will not be slower than the LS6 CST-V . There are reasons the C6 with a LS2 are sligthly slower than Z06 ....weight , gearing ect. The LS2 is going in the unchanged caddy , with the same 3.73 rears gears and same t56 trans . The LS2 broader TQ curve , the car will probably run near identical ET's , but I bet it will feel a bit better than the LS6 putzing around town . What is the big deal , do 1/2 you people realize the LS2 is in a nutshell a LS6 mechanically ...right down to the intake and identical cylinder heads ...and most of the improvements were made within the shortblock , more effcient coil packs , and MUCH better engineered water pump , the 2 knock sensors in the intake valley were moved to external locations ect. I wonder what would happen if you put the LS2 in a C5 Z06 , laxed on the TQ mgmt and drive-by-wire intervention , used a m12 trans and 3.42 gears and the Z06's weight . I think alot of you would be eating crow

The one thing I will give merit to , and "possibly throw a small wrench in " is the LS2 PCM . Shoud the 2006 CTS-V end up a tad slower than the 2005 , the pcm WILL be the culprit . The torque mangement and drive-by-wire tables are much more intrusive in the LS2 ( over both the LS1 and LS6 ) pcm , in the corvette anyways . Hopefully GM will lax up a bit with the CTS , seeing as how this is the Z06 of the CTS line . I personally do not think they would let the 06 go out the door a slower car . They already got flack for the early 04's not being as fast they were supposed to be , and PROMPTLY fixed the problem .

Also , I would HIGHLY doubt a 400 hp LS2 is gonna be a standard engine in a Camaro Z28 , not in at 400 hp anyways

 

And unless the supposed Super-V , with a much higher $$$ ever came to pass , thats not ever gonna happen either .

 

did they fix or ease the wheelhop problem to go with the new engine?? there's no point in having so much power if you can't put it to good use.

 

Id like to see that 505hp Supercharged LS2 that was in that STS test car.
Share that across the V range, like MB does with AMG.

 

IRS = wheelhop...sorry

 

no, GM IRS = wheelhop. it can be fixed. there's plenty of AMGs out there doing fine with 500+ lb-ft and IRS.

 

#1) LS6 CTS-V is faster than the 300c SRT-8

#2) LS2 is more powerful than the LS6 (can some one get a link of that comparison dyno?)

Thus the LS2 CTS-V will be faster than both the SRT-8 and LS6 CTS. I wouldn't doubt the LS2 CTS could be faster than the STS-V

....and from what I have heard wheel hop is no longer an issue.

 

I guess it doesn't count when a $90k Porsche 911S does it violently, or when Mustang Cobras sometimes do it, or...

The CTS-V is a high-powered sports sedan, not a freaking drag racer. That being said, I agree that the wheel hop should be eliminated (and the recent word is that it has been, at least to a large degree). But to say that GM IRS = wheel hop is kind of a crappy way to put it. Sometimes it does happen in GM cars, just like it sometimes does in several other high powered cars from many other makes...

 

Yeah, yeah. IF this and IF that. If the C6 had a bottle of nitrous...

And you forgot the smaller cam too. No simple bolt on.


Obviously programming plays a big part. And why on earth would GM lax up the drivetrain saving programming on bigger, heavier car?

http://motortrend.com/roadtests/seda...io/index7.html

Here's a 110lb LIGHTER LS2 GTO running .2sec and 2 mph SLOWER than the LS6 CTS.

The LS2 CTS will be slower than the last one.

 

Good one. The 315lb LIGHTER CTS with 6spd T56 is slightly quicker than the 5spd AUTO SRT-8(.1sec 1.5mph). Which means I can be chomping down on a Big Mac and a Coke while staying nose to nose with some guy frantically trying to hit every shift perfectly.

Yeah, I think I'll take the SRT-8 and 10 grand.



Don't believe the hype(dyno). Real C6 owners are regularly reporting 13flat@110. That's it.

A lighter GTO with same T56 is slower than a 110lb heavier LS6 CTS.

Good thing on the wheel hop though.