CTS-V info and PICTURES!
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Originally posted by redzed
I'd say that the LS6 is a major Chevrolet component, and while I like alot of what is coming out of Germany right now, there still alot that I'm skeptical about. For instance, the reliability of the 3-series BMW has falled to Cadillac levels - not good...
...While a $35k CTSv would be impressive, its a product that's pitched more towards a M5 niche rather than a volume luxury-performance market like the 540i. Believe it or not, some people actually don't want a luxury car that you have to shift yourself. Considering the type of driving I do, a CTS with an LS-1 and a slushbox would have actually been more desirable....
The Cadillac mentality has never been about "passing savings on to the consumer." The current Escalade pretty much proves that. Moreover, alot of people would argue that the Camaro SS wasn't a "zero-extra-profit" car for Chevrolet. I might argue differently, if only because the SLP outsourcing process seemed so expensive and inefficient.
I'd say that the LS6 is a major Chevrolet component, and while I like alot of what is coming out of Germany right now, there still alot that I'm skeptical about. For instance, the reliability of the 3-series BMW has falled to Cadillac levels - not good...
...While a $35k CTSv would be impressive, its a product that's pitched more towards a M5 niche rather than a volume luxury-performance market like the 540i. Believe it or not, some people actually don't want a luxury car that you have to shift yourself. Considering the type of driving I do, a CTS with an LS-1 and a slushbox would have actually been more desirable....
The Cadillac mentality has never been about "passing savings on to the consumer." The current Escalade pretty much proves that. Moreover, alot of people would argue that the Camaro SS wasn't a "zero-extra-profit" car for Chevrolet. I might argue differently, if only because the SLP outsourcing process seemed so expensive and inefficient.
Though the CTSv is certainly aimed at the M series, I don't see the 540i as a "luxury performance" car. CTS still outsells the 5 series, and most people chose not to get raped by BMW over their cars of late.
In short, I think you got it backwards. It's BMW that doesn't have the mentality of passing savings to it's customers.
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Originally posted by redzed
What's up with the mesh grill and dingy grey alloy wheels on the CTSv? The standard CTS is visually boring, but the CTSv is more so. It's almost as if Cadillac is giving up every distinctive styling cue, both the good and the bad. This "fusion of design and technology" origami inspired bodywork isn't enough to make a car standout. I guess monochromatic anonymity is what they're going for.
What's up with the mesh grill and dingy grey alloy wheels on the CTSv? The standard CTS is visually boring, but the CTSv is more so. It's almost as if Cadillac is giving up every distinctive styling cue, both the good and the bad. This "fusion of design and technology" origami inspired bodywork isn't enough to make a car standout. I guess monochromatic anonymity is what they're going for.
CTS has been a huge success so far.
It definately stands out in a crowd.
Now, I can understand if you don't like the styling. This was a 'love it or hate it' look when it came out, though it seems a lot of people are warming up to it now that once did not, but anyway... "Visually boring?!?!?" I don't think so.
Last edited by Darth Xed; Apr 17, 2003 at 11:11 AM.
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Originally posted by l_bilyk
it's about damn time
that thing was soooooo underpowered before
it's about damn time
that thing was soooooo underpowered before
I drove a 2003 CTS and was actually surprised that it moved pretty well, considering it's not the 'performance version'
Now the CTS-V is coming and it looks to be an M3 (and M5 for that matter) killer!
Last edited by Darth Xed; Apr 16, 2003 at 08:12 PM.
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Originally posted by slt
OK, this is how it is starting to look, either a slow v6 that I can afford, or the whup *** v-series that is looking to sell for around $50,000.
How about a middle car to compete with cars like the G35
OK, this is how it is starting to look, either a slow v6 that I can afford, or the whup *** v-series that is looking to sell for around $50,000.
How about a middle car to compete with cars like the G35
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Did ya see this?
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=03609759
Check out:
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Cadillac will sell three CTS models: The current base model with a 2.6-liter, 185-hp V-6; a 3.2-liter, 218-hp version; and the high-performance V-Series model.
Lutz told Automobilwoche that the V-Series will boast 400 hp and cost $35,675.
"
Aye Carumba!
I'm clearing space in my garage right now!!!
-J
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=03609759
Check out:
"
Cadillac will sell three CTS models: The current base model with a 2.6-liter, 185-hp V-6; a 3.2-liter, 218-hp version; and the high-performance V-Series model.
Lutz told Automobilwoche that the V-Series will boast 400 hp and cost $35,675.
"
Aye Carumba!
I'm clearing space in my garage right now!!!-J
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Originally posted by slt
Me too, but if the V comes in at $50k, I will be parking a G35 in that space
Me too, but if the V comes in at $50k, I will be parking a G35 in that space
-J
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Price estimates seem to be hovering at "around $50,000" - but we hear the first number on the price tag will be a "4."
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Originally posted by slt
from www.autoextremist.com
from www.autoextremist.com
