CTS-V info and PICTURES!
I was walking around town this past weekend, I could have sworn I saw a two door version of this car being tested (had all that camoflauged braw and rear end) (Yes, I'm in metro Detroit) I really haven't been keeping track of the CTS-V but when I saw this car it really made my head turn, wonder how much it's gonna cost...
Originally posted by mobleman
I was walking around town this past weekend, I could have sworn I saw a two door version of this car being tested (had all that camoflauged braw and rear end) (Yes, I'm in metro Detroit) I really haven't been keeping track of the CTS-V but when I saw this car it really made my head turn, wonder how much it's gonna cost...
I was walking around town this past weekend, I could have sworn I saw a two door version of this car being tested (had all that camoflauged braw and rear end) (Yes, I'm in metro Detroit) I really haven't been keeping track of the CTS-V but when I saw this car it really made my head turn, wonder how much it's gonna cost...
Safe to say a CTS coupe most certainly exists, and it is pretty certainly is aimed at production.

BTW, getting back to the CTSv, even if it does touch $45,000, just think of that comparatively laughably weak Lincoln LS that's going for $48,000! Even if the "V" comes in at that price, it's still a bargin.
Going with my experiance, and the fact that the XLR is $76k, and the SSR is $47k, my guess is the CTS-V will slot in ABOVE $50k, closer to $55k.
Then again, i would not be surprised if it even rode to close to $60k.
Then again, i would not be surprised if it even rode to close to $60k.
Originally posted by WERM
Who want's a Camaro based off of this chassis? Nice car, but man it's a porker.
Who want's a Camaro based off of this chassis? Nice car, but man it's a porker.
$60k for the CTS-V when the base CTS is $30k is like the days of the ZR1, where one had to pay ~$25k more for the ultimate Vette. I thought GM learned their lesson when the ZR1 ultimately proved unprofitable.
As I basically cried about before, an LS6, upgraded rear end and brakes should NOT double the price of the car. I'm sorry, but it's a ripoff considering the pushrod LS6 is a relatively cheap piece to begin with. Why is Caddy being so secretive about the price????
This car CAN'T come in at over $50k...it won't even make any sense. There was no R&D money to go into either the engine or the tranny...so there is no need to recoop those costs. The ZR1 cost cso much because the engine was entirely different. The only development costs on the engine and tranny are for packaging considerations.
Let's remember that new wheels/brakes/suspension aren'y entirely NEW items, they're replacing stock equipment so we just can't add up the numbers. It's really the price OVER the stock parts and then some profit.
I'd really expect this CTSv to come in at low to mid $40k's, though a sticker price of $44995 would not suprise me.
The SSR might be stickered at $47k, but that truck/car/roadster/thing is as unique as anything on the road AND it has a retractable hardtop that you're paying for.
The GTO will be somewhere in the high $30k's. Everything should fall into line something like that.
-Rich
Let's remember that new wheels/brakes/suspension aren'y entirely NEW items, they're replacing stock equipment so we just can't add up the numbers. It's really the price OVER the stock parts and then some profit.
I'd really expect this CTSv to come in at low to mid $40k's, though a sticker price of $44995 would not suprise me.
The SSR might be stickered at $47k, but that truck/car/roadster/thing is as unique as anything on the road AND it has a retractable hardtop that you're paying for.
The GTO will be somewhere in the high $30k's. Everything should fall into line something like that.

-Rich
Originally posted by Mervz
Going with my experiance, and the fact that the XLR is $76k, and the SSR is $47k, my guess is the CTS-V will slot in ABOVE $50k, closer to $55k.
Then again, i would not be surprised if it even rode to close to $60k.
Going with my experiance, and the fact that the XLR is $76k, and the SSR is $47k, my guess is the CTS-V will slot in ABOVE $50k, closer to $55k.
Then again, i would not be surprised if it even rode to close to $60k.
The price jump should be about the same difference from a base vette to the Z06
What's up with the mesh grill and dingy grey alloy wheels on the CTSv? The standard CTS is visually boring, but the CTSv is more so. It's almost as if Cadillac is giving up every distinctive styling cue, both the good and the bad. This "fusion of design and technology" origami inspired bodywork isn't enough to make a car standout. I guess monochromatic anonymity is what they're going for.
I think its ironic that while Cadillac is moving towards the generic euro-design-thing, BMW has rediscovered chrome. Look at a BMW M3, and you'll notice an indecent amount of brightwork - all chrome grill, chrome glazed fender vents, glistening rims, etc. Maybe Lutz is just to old to realize that automotive "jewelry" is back in style. Even a Nissan Altima has more eye candy than this hotrod Caddy.
Of course there's the matter of price. I really don't believe that the CTSv will fall under $40-45K. If this car could sell fully-optioned in the mid-thirties, it would be a revelation. In that range, the performance value might overide the "Cadillac stigma" that alot of buyers still perceive.
While I'm not a Cadillac hater - I even like traditional Caddys - my father sure is. He wouldn't buy one, no way, no how, never! The Corvette engined CTSv has just reinforced his longstanding notion that a Cadillac is just an overpriced conglomeration of Chevy components. Strangely, dear old dad got really excited last year when the $60k Audi S6 premiered. I actually had to talk him out of a testdrive. Now that the 450hp+ generation of German ubermensch sedans has appeared, I've chosen to avoid the topic high-dollar import performance. I don't want my Z28 to compete for garage space with some V8 Audi.
Cadillac has a long way to go before some serious enthusiasts can be convinced. The road to brand credibility might be shorter if the CTSv emerges as a "must have" perfomance value. However, a CTSv crowding a the $45-50,000+ mark just won't do the job. In that pricing stratosphere, this sub-luxury/Corvette hybrid looks like a looser when truly prestigious hyperperformance sedans are available.
I think its ironic that while Cadillac is moving towards the generic euro-design-thing, BMW has rediscovered chrome. Look at a BMW M3, and you'll notice an indecent amount of brightwork - all chrome grill, chrome glazed fender vents, glistening rims, etc. Maybe Lutz is just to old to realize that automotive "jewelry" is back in style. Even a Nissan Altima has more eye candy than this hotrod Caddy.
Of course there's the matter of price. I really don't believe that the CTSv will fall under $40-45K. If this car could sell fully-optioned in the mid-thirties, it would be a revelation. In that range, the performance value might overide the "Cadillac stigma" that alot of buyers still perceive.
While I'm not a Cadillac hater - I even like traditional Caddys - my father sure is. He wouldn't buy one, no way, no how, never! The Corvette engined CTSv has just reinforced his longstanding notion that a Cadillac is just an overpriced conglomeration of Chevy components. Strangely, dear old dad got really excited last year when the $60k Audi S6 premiered. I actually had to talk him out of a testdrive. Now that the 450hp+ generation of German ubermensch sedans has appeared, I've chosen to avoid the topic high-dollar import performance. I don't want my Z28 to compete for garage space with some V8 Audi.
Cadillac has a long way to go before some serious enthusiasts can be convinced. The road to brand credibility might be shorter if the CTSv emerges as a "must have" perfomance value. However, a CTSv crowding a the $45-50,000+ mark just won't do the job. In that pricing stratosphere, this sub-luxury/Corvette hybrid looks like a looser when truly prestigious hyperperformance sedans are available.
Originally posted by redzed
The standard CTS is visually boring, but the CTSv is more so. It's almost as if Cadillac is giving up every distinctive styling cue, both the good and the bad. This "fusion of design and technology" origami inspired bodywork isn't enough to make a car standout.
The standard CTS is visually boring, but the CTSv is more so. It's almost as if Cadillac is giving up every distinctive styling cue, both the good and the bad. This "fusion of design and technology" origami inspired bodywork isn't enough to make a car standout.
Name me one luxury car that goes against the grain in its lines like CTS. BMW? Clean, attractive, conservative (up to this point). Lexus? Please. Mercedes? Besides the Kompressor roadster, swoopy. Lincoln LS? Did Ford just walk into BMW's design studios and swipe the sketches of the 5 series off the easels? I think people can instantly tell the difference between a CTS and anything else. Now line up a Lexus IS 300 and a BMW 3-series and ask people which is which.
This car will sticker right around 41k, guaranteed...no more, but certainly no less.
Don't compare this to a GTO...the price strcuture between the 2 cars doesn't have to compare. They're 2 different markets. This car will be priced right at a base Corvette, or a few bucks cheaper...guaranteed.
Don't compare this to a GTO...the price strcuture between the 2 cars doesn't have to compare. They're 2 different markets. This car will be priced right at a base Corvette, or a few bucks cheaper...guaranteed.



, it looks really nice. The specs look great as well. I'm guessing it will go for about $41k. A coupe version would be very interesting. Two thumbs up for the general
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