Couple of questions about the CAW..
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Couple of questions about the CAW..
Ok, I was thinking today about the CAW thing and GM.
Now, the whole deal with the Ste.Therese plant is over,right?
And the CAW is ok now that they have poured money and people into the Oshawa plants?
Then what is really holding GM back? Did I miss the memo? Is there just little things that need to get out of the way before they can really give it the green light?
Can someone explain exactly what is so important with the CAW talks, outside of GM going head to head with another union.
Now, the whole deal with the Ste.Therese plant is over,right?
And the CAW is ok now that they have poured money and people into the Oshawa plants?
Then what is really holding GM back? Did I miss the memo? Is there just little things that need to get out of the way before they can really give it the green light?
Can someone explain exactly what is so important with the CAW talks, outside of GM going head to head with another union.
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Re: Couple of questions about the CAW..
Typical posturing ahead of labor talks.
On the CAW's side, they know that GM is looking at getting a Camaro replacement on line ASAP. Camaro is a pretty prestigious & historical name (think of the pride of the UAW over Corvette at Bowling Green and that Mustang had at River Rouge). The local union that made the last Camaro still has hard feelings over Ste Therese (though off the record, the CAW doesn't quite share this). Safe bet is that since certain union reps know more about some of the cars GM wants to produce than I do (that IS their job), If I were them, I'd use any leverage I can to get more work for my guys, but gaining the Camaro would be the ultimate feather in the cap.
On GM's side, they have excess plant capacity. They also want the UAW to agree to changes in heath benefits (not an issue in Canada where workers are covered by National Health Care). GM is under no obligation to produce Camaro in Canada any longer. I can see GM using a Camaro and a volume sedan (Impala and Grand Prix is married to Oshawa, so it would need a new name) as a carrot to entice concessions from the UAW to avoid sending the work to the CAW.
If the CAW makes a good bargin with GM, while the UAW refuses to budge, chances are Canada would get the job, and GM would be more free to talk about Camaro.
If the UAW agree to reopen their contract and compromise on health care changes, then they would possibly get the job and GM would be free to talk about Camaro.
This is pretty oversimplified, and I'm not going to go into more details than is obvious to both sides. But I'm willing to bet a Heineken that between the CAW settlement (hopefully before fall) and the New York Auto Show next March, we'll have a better idea what GM will be doing in competing against the Mustang.
On the CAW's side, they know that GM is looking at getting a Camaro replacement on line ASAP. Camaro is a pretty prestigious & historical name (think of the pride of the UAW over Corvette at Bowling Green and that Mustang had at River Rouge). The local union that made the last Camaro still has hard feelings over Ste Therese (though off the record, the CAW doesn't quite share this). Safe bet is that since certain union reps know more about some of the cars GM wants to produce than I do (that IS their job), If I were them, I'd use any leverage I can to get more work for my guys, but gaining the Camaro would be the ultimate feather in the cap.
On GM's side, they have excess plant capacity. They also want the UAW to agree to changes in heath benefits (not an issue in Canada where workers are covered by National Health Care). GM is under no obligation to produce Camaro in Canada any longer. I can see GM using a Camaro and a volume sedan (Impala and Grand Prix is married to Oshawa, so it would need a new name) as a carrot to entice concessions from the UAW to avoid sending the work to the CAW.
If the CAW makes a good bargin with GM, while the UAW refuses to budge, chances are Canada would get the job, and GM would be more free to talk about Camaro.
If the UAW agree to reopen their contract and compromise on health care changes, then they would possibly get the job and GM would be free to talk about Camaro.
This is pretty oversimplified, and I'm not going to go into more details than is obvious to both sides. But I'm willing to bet a Heineken that between the CAW settlement (hopefully before fall) and the New York Auto Show next March, we'll have a better idea what GM will be doing in competing against the Mustang.
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