I did 185-187

I liked my 3rd gen, but it could be a little shoter, but still needed to be bigger than the '04 Mustang

 

Which is why I'm being a cheerleader for realism, which should be distinguished for cheerleading for a big fat bloated car.

There's going to be a lot of unhappy campers out there if they all hang their hats on the 3400 lb number, which I have no idea where it came from. Some body just threw a dart, it sounded good, and so it caught on I guess.

 

I think 170's is not possible. I think low 180s is POSSIBLE but not REALISTIC. I think if you expect the Camaro of any length to be 3400lbs or less its going to cost every bit of $40K even if its not fully loaded, could be more. Weight reduction strategies are very expenseive. Go read All Corvettes are Red and then you'll understand what has to go into such an effort. Extensive use of expensive materials is the main way to reduce weight.

Will a $40,000 Camaro sell? How well? I sure as hell wouldn't want to be the guy at GM that made that business case. I think they'd loose their **** on $40,000 Camaros. I think they have to come in at or under GTO prices otherwise its not a Chevy. You might buy one at $40K but you'd be in limited company for sure. And what would that do the price of the base v6 coupes? Those are your bread and butter. If a v6 Camaro ends up being $30K just because we all demanded it weight 3400 lbs, then the car is screwed from the start and I'd rather it stay dead than die twice.

Keep in mind the G35 is an Infinity, which is a luxury brand, they charge more but give you more content. Camaro will be a Chevrolet. There's some huge differences in target market, and especially target pricing there. The G35 coupe will NOT be a primary competitor for Camaro sales.

Most folks driving G35s would not be caught dead in a Camaro. I'd buy lunch for anyone that can prove otherwise. Anecdotal evidence doesn't count. I want to see a survey that shows this. All this carping about the G35 when its just not that relevant to Camaro's market.

 

OK Chris, NOW....you owe me a drink AND lunch!

I have a Camaro and am considering purchasing a G35 Coupe.

 

I too would like to own a G35 coupe (not 4 door though)

 

I think size-wise I am being very realistic. Weight-wise I am not. Price wise I am being realistic. What did a fully loaded 4th gen cost? I know some one that paid 36k for an SS plus tax he was close to 40k. You could also pick up a base 4th gen for mid teens.
I really think the G35,350z, & M3 are competitors for Camaro/Mustang and GTO. If the Camaro is done right I think it will pull those customers looking at G35, M3's ect into Chevy showrooms. If price is the issue how can GM justify the Corvette? It is a Chevy isn't it?

 

Heh, my old man owns both. '02 Z28 & '04 G35 sedan...

I know this great place...12:30 good for you?

Anyhoo, as pony car starved as I am, I'd probably be happy if they simply tooled up and started producing 4th gens... BTW, I voted for 185-187".

 

I owned a 4th gen Z28, Cobra, and 350Z. I would buy a G35 coupe if I found the right deal.

 

Those of you saying that you'd like to see a Camaro in the 170's do realize that it would be smaller than those tiny 80's 5.0 M*stang LX's right? Right?!



I prefer a bigger and safer car.

 

Like I said, ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE DOESN'T COUNT.

 

Because Corvette appeals to a different market.

This is not that complicated. Chevy, except for Corvette, is "affordable" cars..that's their mission. Camaro is not a "premium" name and I don't think you can charge premium prices for a Camaro.

FWIW most loaded 4th gens topped out around $32K. A firehawk might have cost you $36 if you were nutty enough to pay full sticker. But then again they didn't expect to sell 40,000 $36K firehawks a year either.

 

my buddies car stickered for almost 38k. It has everything except for the suspension option which was about $1800 and auto. A fully loaded vert was $42k.

 

While I'm not pushing for a fat-bloated Camaro, I would prefer it to be around the same length as a 3rd gen.

And for all those people who want 3,400 lb? C'mon, some of you are moving into fantasy land with that idea.

 

No huge wheel base please! 104-106 max! I cannot stand long wheel base Envoys and Trail Blazers--they look so dumb.

And the new G6 looks goofy with a 112" wb--the Malibu, alhtough bland, looks far tider on its 106" wheel base.

I don't want an oddly proportioned car. I voted for a bit shorter then 3rd gen,
185.5"-187.5" would do fine

 

I'm too taken by the sound of a V8 to consider anything with a V6 otherwise I would cross shop the G35.