Chevrolet "GTO"
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
I like mine.
No one liked my Mustang, especially since it was a Ford, but I liked mine.
Alternative reply:
Yeah, and I'm sure someone somewhere likes this:

Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
pictures of Chevrolet Lumina SS the "Chevy GTO"
I'm not going to bother seeing if anyone else posted these, but these are large pictures of the car.
I'm not going to bother seeing if anyone else posted these, but these are large pictures of the car.
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by Brangeta
pictures of Chevrolet Lumina SS the "Chevy GTO"
I'm not going to bother seeing if anyone else posted these, but these are large pictures of the car.
I'm not going to bother seeing if anyone else posted these, but these are large pictures of the car.
Last edited by 30thZ286speed; Nov 30, 2004 at 04:18 PM.
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by guionM
Now again, if you can show me a dealer selling a GTO below invoice (which means, before rebates) or a dealer I can call that is selling a GTO at $25,000 advertised, let me know & I will call them and verify it.
Johnsocal knows why.
Johnsocal knows why.

Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
I think Guy is hoping you guys can show him a 25K in cali, so that he can be there in a jiffy. cali rules will not allow an out-of-state vehicle with less than 7500miles to be brought and registered into this state unless you have owned and registered that vehicle for at least 6 months.
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by 2MCHPSI
Price gouging only played a small part in sales, or lack there of..The car was just not well received.
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Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by 2MCHPSI...snipped...
This is where your bitchfest is missing the point. 18,000 cars. I never said sales did not increase at all with incentives, but looking at the data while the rebates started, other than 1 month in September, the sales are not enough to reach the target market.. Without price gouging, and without actual drastic price reductions, GM could still not make make near 18k in sales.That is my point.. [b
This is where your bitchfest is missing the point. 18,000 cars. I never said sales did not increase at all with incentives, but looking at the data while the rebates started, other than 1 month in September, the sales are not enough to reach the target market.. Without price gouging, and without actual drastic price reductions, GM could still not make make near 18k in sales.That is my point.. [b
Everyone blames price gouging for the lack of 18k sales, but the reality was the sticker was too high to begin with.[/b] not dealer goiging.
Price gouging did not keep 18k sales from happening... Price gouging was not a factor after the first 6 months...18k in sales would not of happened even at regular prices and no gouging, and have a very hard time reaching the numbers even with a full year of $3500 in rebates( or lowered sticker).
What I do want to know is if the 05's sales suck, will they offer a 3500 rebate on them.. GM has shot themselves in the foot it seems, because now everyone expects rebates.. While big rebates cleared out inventory, people are now expecting these rebates as the norm now..
Price gouging did not keep 18k sales from happening... Price gouging was not a factor after the first 6 months...18k in sales would not of happened even at regular prices and no gouging, and have a very hard time reaching the numbers even with a full year of $3500 in rebates( or lowered sticker).
What I do want to know is if the 05's sales suck, will they offer a 3500 rebate on them.. GM has shot themselves in the foot it seems, because now everyone expects rebates.. While big rebates cleared out inventory, people are now expecting these rebates as the norm now..
Price gouging has effects LONG after they're not even going on. Once the Pontiac dealers got the rep that they were screwing the customers over the GTO, it takes a few months for that to wear off.
As to the correct sticker price for the GTO, we can't say since the gouging screwed up any realistic measure of what would "sell." My hunch is that if the pricing had been consistent from the start, the GTO would have made the full 18K sales in a year going for $31K sticker WITH low financing and a modest $1000-1500 incentive in the last few months. Finally ending with dealer discounts on top of that.
Now we're going to get to see a better test with the '05. BUT it appears they're cutting the import figure by 30%, so now that's only 12000 cars. They'll sell every one GUARANTEED. The dealers now KNOW what they can reasonably expect to squeeze out of people. They'll pace themselves on the pricing to get all 12K sold at maximum dollars. And we're NOT going to be seeing the steals at the end of the year on the '05 like the '04.
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Take a look at the link below, this car has the GTO Beat hands down. Who cares what sales the GTO has. Who cares what it looks like when you have cars like this to look at. GTO is nothing more than a Grand Am with a V8 and rwd. Welcome to the real world when you own one of these
What is a GTO?
What is a GTO?
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by Cobra R
Take a look at the link below, this car has the GTO Beat hands down. Who cares what sales the GTO has. Who cares what it looks like when you have cars like this to look at. GTO is nothing more than a Grand Am with a V8 and rwd. Welcome to the real world when you own one of these
What is a GTO?
What is a GTO?
OK, Z06's cost Twenty Thousand Dollars More than a GTO...
And C5's look like Ford Probes and Mazda RX-7's...

Grand Am with RWD 
Same thing over and over... sheeeeeeeeeeez.

15 posts since 1998, and you make numner 16 this????
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One other thing I don't get is people saying how expensive the car is. Its not that much more than a Firehawk or SS or CETA back in '02. And if the F-Body would have continued to have been built would be more expensive than the GTO. For the money, the goat is a much better value than the F-Body ever was.
I just told get how its OK for one car to be priced that high another is way too expensive. Especially when the latter is a better car?
I just told get how its OK for one car to be priced that high another is way too expensive. Especially when the latter is a better car?
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by Cobra R
Take a look at the link below, this car has the GTO Beat hands down. Who cares what sales the GTO has. Who cares what it looks like when you have cars like this to look at. GTO is nothing more than a Grand Am with a V8 and rwd. Welcome to the real world when you own one of these
What is a GTO?
What is a GTO?
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Grand Am
GTO
Yea ok, I am sorry, they changed a couple lines on the car
Buy a used 02-03 Z06 with under 10k for 32-34k, so sorry, not 20k more
I will dedicate #20 to you
Oh and
And a 4th Gen is a Geo Storm. Either way, dont get made because you cant afford one.
GTO
Yea ok, I am sorry, they changed a couple lines on the car
OK, Z06's cost Twenty Thousand Dollars More than a GTO...
15 posts since 1998, and you make numner 16 this????
Oh and
And C5's look like Ford Probes and Mazda RX-7's...
Re: Chevrolet "GTO"
Originally Posted by RobsWS6
Again, if you can't see the difference, then you are blind. A couple of lines like every line on the car 

Oh wait, you are right, strip off the Grand Am side panel and you have a GTO
So does that make the GTO a stripped Grand Am?


