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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 03:59 PM
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Originally posted by guionM
It looks like nothing more than a Malibu coupe.

I got a kick out of the introduction though:
"Beginning in 1964, Chevrolet offered a line of cars with a level of versatility unmatched by any other - a line that ran the range of customer requirements from the economical family sedan to the undisputed 1/4 mile king of the muscle car wars."

The person who wrote this obviously is clueless that Chevelle was part of GM's mid-size line (that every division except Cadillac had) which compeated with Ford's & Chrysler's.... hardly "unmatched versatility"
Would you be willing to show me any information you have on a Camaro sedan, wagon, AND trucklet? Don't have any? How about the Mustang? The Cuda? The Charger? Still can't find it? It's probably on your bookshelf, right next to the brochure for the Corvette minivan. Fact is, the Chevelle nameplate has been attached to a wide variety of bodystyle and performance configurations, ranging from ho-hum family sedans to one of the most desirable muscle cars on the planet. Doesn't sound like the Chevelle rates high on your personal list, but don't deny its place in history.
, and he also is pretty clueless in thinking that Hemi Chargers & Cudas along with 396 Camaros, 428 Mustangs, and perhaps a half dozen other cars of the era (as well as both modern LS1 and LT1 Camaros) could beat them.
I'm guessing from that half-sentence that you're suggesting that those cars could beat a Chevelle. Not gonna bother touching that one...as far as I'm concerned, you invalidated yourself when you brought the LS1/LT1 F-bods in. They've had the benefit of 30+ years of technological improvements and shouldn't be placed in a comparison with a classic muscle car.
Unimaginative design combined with a ridiculous false view of Chevelle's history (it was a cheap mid-size carline, first & foremost, when compared to it's competitors, not some rip snorting car-line ) puts doesn't quite give the effort alot of credibility.
So sorry, but we ran out of goofy graphics, shopping-cart-handle spoilers, and glue-on hood scoops. I'll bet you think the 2005 Mustang is original and innovative. The Skunkworks Chevelle may not be your cup of tea, but you're sadly mistaken if you think no imagination went into the design. Our intent was to create a design that: a.) tipped its cap to past Chevelles without ripping off a 35-40 year old design, b.) could realistically be built by GM using technology available now or in the near future. and c.) would be distinctively Chevrolet while fitting in well with its intended competition (see the site for our list of competitors).
It DOES give some great ideas on what a Malibu SS sedan should look like when it comes out. But as far as Chevelle ideas, the one that appeared in Hot Rod (?) about 3 years ago is much better. [/B]
Yes, and oranges should look just like apples. Whatever.
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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Right. Allow me to introduce myself,I'm the "clueless" guy who wrote the introduction to the Skunkworks Chevelle.
guionM seems to think that the Chevelle was not one of the most revered musclcars ever built -I suggest that he check last year's Barret-Jackson auction results to see what a big block SS convertible is worth these days! Now, about our design-no one has to like it,but we would ask that you give us at least the minimum level of respect for the 6 months of hard work that went into the project. By this I mean read the text,the about us section and the timeline before you judge our work. If you take the time to understand the project you will see why it is as it is. The Chevelle is, in fact, the most versatile line of cars ever offered by GM on a single platform. Check your history the GM "A" body was built from 1964-1977 and during that time no other division of GM had as many variants of the platform as Chevy did with the Chevelle. Additionally there has never been another GM car line that offered this much variation (other than the Holdens our design is based on) from a single platform. Go Ahead and check-I'll wait. Couldn't find it? I thought not. I stand by my words .

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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You know what, I did a little research on Barrett-Jackson auctions, and the Chevelle LS6 convertible that Camino mentioned netted a cool $172,800. Not bad for the spawn of a cheap mid-sized car line. Don't believe my word for it, read http://www.carsandparts.com/features/031102/031102.asp

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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I don't think it looks bad or anything, but it certainly doesn't say "Chevelle" to me. Of course, technically a new Chevelle would just be a Malibu.
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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Originally posted by JEDCamino
I don't think it looks bad or anything, but it certainly doesn't say "Chevelle" to me. Of course, technically a new Chevelle would just be a Malibu.
I'll tell you a secret: It doesn't say Chevelle to me as loudly as I would like either. However we had to make it work in 2004. And "technically " it has nothing at all to do with the Malibu.
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 08:21 PM
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Originally posted by CaminoLS6
Right. Allow me to introduce myself,I'm the "clueless" guy who Additionally there has never been another GM car line that offered this much variation (other than the Holdens our design is based on) from a single platform. Go Ahead and check-I'll wait. Couldn't find it? I thought not. I stand by my words .
6 months to photoshop Holdens? And I can't help thinking you borrowed from HRT433's website?

http://www.hrt433.vze.com

I'm guessing the new "AWD" variants will look like the Adventra, Cross8, SSX and Coupe4?

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by AnthonyHSV
6 months to photoshop Holdens? And I can't help thinking you borrowed from HRT433's website?

http://www.hrt433.vze.com

I'm guessing the new "AWD" variants will look like the Adventura, Cross8, SSX and Coupe4?
Haven't seen that website (but I'll check it out shortly). We did considerably more than simply Photoshop Holdens-read some more of the text and you will see what I mean. Check out the timeline (link at the bottom of the about us page). These cars are based on the Holdens for good reason-it is the only platform that GM has which could do the job. Not to mention that the Holdens are just plain excellent cars.
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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Thumbs up

Cool site- a man after my own heart for sure. Thanks for the link.
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by Z284ever
What do you guys think of the Chevelle SS on this page?

http://www.geocities.com/crispey2k/chevrolet
are those focus headlights?
Old Jan 22, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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Originally posted by Stealth 86 LSC
are those focus headlights?

No those are Malibu Headlights.

BTW I was the exterior designer for the Skunkworks Chevelle. It took 6 months to design our Chevelle because of all of the changes that need to be made while designing a car.

I am also going to school for Automotive/Industrial design and I can tell you it takes atleast 6 months to decide on a final design for an automobile. I know this because many of my professors are or have been proffesional car designers. Designing a car that appeals to the most broad spectrum of customers is very hard, long and tedious work.

Read the Timeline on the Skunkworks site in the About Us section and you will see our Chevelle evolve over time into what it is now.
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 12:14 AM
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I was part of the Skunkworks Chevelle Project too.

My contribution was minor compared to CaminoLS6, crispey2k, and z28luver. These three guys did the heavy lifting on this project....I would just throw my 2 cents in now and then.

But I learned something from this project.....and I thought about some points that Red Planet brought up afew times in the past.

It's alot of work getting a bunch of people to agree enough to create a car line. It's not just the work, it's being able to make decisions by committee....lots of decisions on a daily basis.

Maybe this project isn't perfect....but it literally took hundreds and hundreds of man hours of hard work over six months by about a dozen people to bring it to this point.

I can only imagine the effort required if this wasn't a virtual car.

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Old Jan 23, 2004 | 01:10 AM
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Don't take this wrong but, I thought it looked a lot like last years' "Accord" with a boxy Impala front end...Just my opinion, what it's worth..
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 06:27 AM
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I actually really like the basic concept you have for a chevelle, but i cant see a ss396, much less a ss427 el camino being ANYTHING near feasible. everything else screams possible, but what platform would it be on, a stretched monaro?
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by Stealth 86 LSC
I actually really like the basic concept you have for a chevelle, but i cant see a ss396, much less a ss427 el camino being ANYTHING near feasible. everything else screams possible, but what platform would it be on, a stretched monaro?
The engine lineup is possible-or will be with the SS396 being the least likely as it would have no other GM applications. It would be Chevelle only -but it is just a modified version of a C6 Corvette base engine. The platform all of the concepts are based on is the current Holden Monaro,Commodore,Ute platform. Only the El Camino and wagon could realistically be done on this platform. The rest would likely not be feasible until the new VE platform is ready. The VE will be hapenning soon enough that I doubt GM would build those versions before that time. If GM were to do any of this, other than wagon/El Camino , it will likely happen at the same time a re-designed GTO does.
Old Jan 23, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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doh, didnt even think about the c5r 427....feelin kinda dumb now. problem is, and i htink someone already mentioned this, but if the decide to produce a chevelle, rwd with a v8. then they have a 2 dr chevelle, thatd more than likely kill almost any chance of a 5th gen camaro. theyd be too direct of competition. HOWEVER, if theres no camaro, then the gto and the chevelle could be the new cam/bird combo



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