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The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Old Sep 2, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by gr8fl red!
Show me don't tell me.

I'll believe it when I see it, I don't think the Camaro is coming back. Too much secret legal mambo jambo. I hope I am wrong.
You are wrong.
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 04:09 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Anyone think that the 6.2 that we saw in the Colorado Concept will make its way into a Z28? If I can get a 400hp+ Z28 with 6spd(manual or tiptronic) for under 35k, I think I will be happy.

Base comes withV6 or optional 5.3 V8...SS has 5.3 or optional 6.0....Z28 has 6.0 or optional 6.2.
Make it happen.
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

5.3 is plenty for a base v8... any more and parents wont buy them for their 16-18 year olds
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by JoeliusZ28
5.3 is plenty for a base v8... any more and parents wont buy them for their 16-18 year olds
Parents don't buy cars like these for their 16-18 year olds.
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 07:35 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by Big Als Z
Anyone think that the 6.2 that we saw in the Colorado Concept will make its way into a Z28?
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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F*ck torque management. I can manage it all through my feet and the shifter. As much as I would love to see a wicked 6.0 liter in the Z28, with the engine out from udner the cowl so we can used roots blowers..., I don't think either of those will happen. Chevy has a stick up its @$$ about Corvette, and frankly I'm sick of it. 420 HP in the next Charger. And it's likely to have 2 doors and four seats. Now I'm not suggesting everyone will go for a Charger over a Vette, too many old guys with too much money, however, I believe some buyers will be swayed to a "more powerful" even it is heavier Charger. The Corvette is going to need a boost in performance and in the near future. We need to see about 425-450 out of the base Vette. The Z06 should get the 7.0 liter. Too much history with the 427 to not play off that like Dodge does with the HEMI. The Z06 should put down 525 hp easy with a sub 3000 weight. I know we're talking about 25 or so hp here, but the hp game is being played and everyone is just getting faster. Which brings me to my final point. In 2008, when one might expect to see a Z28 version, I think it should have 400 hp. Give the GTO 405 and we'll call it a day.

Basically, I want a Z28 when I get out of college and I want it to be sick fast, not "Mustang fast."
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 08:06 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by guionM
Parents don't buy cars like these for their 16-18 year olds.
I wish that were the case, sadly it isn't always that way. My 14 year old daughter has a "friend" whose parents bought a 2001 SS for.

Needless to say, she does not ride with him (at least to the extent that I can prevent it).

As for the issue at hand....Z284ever...I hope you are correct, and your "case" becomes reality. Competition improves the breed....be it GM, DC, or Ford.
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 08:14 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by guionM
Parents don't buy cars like these for their 16-18 year olds.
im gonna have to go ahead and disagree... someone at my hs had a 35th anniversary edition SS. And being that the motor didnt even last a year ( ), i highly doubt he paid for it.
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
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Old Sep 2, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by Z28x
I'd rather see a base 5.3L. Who says 310HP? maybe with Silverado 9.5:1 heads, but with 10.5:1 LS6 heads/cam You could have 375HP (405/5.7 *5.3). Or 325HP with 10:1 LS1 spec heads and still run on 87.
A 6.0L would have:
-More power
-For less exotica
-At lower cost


How would it simplify production?
Fewer RPO codes going down the line.
Old Sep 2, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Z284ever
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very awesome....

6.2 V8 "427" to "454" hp, 6spd, red, ttops, grey interior, 17's, cross drilled 13.2 inch rotors, twin piston calipers, and a few other toys....have it ready some time in 08/08 when my lease runs out on my Maxx.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
A 6.0L would have:
-More power
-For less exotica
-At lower cost
Power would be about the same if the 6.0L is tuned down to sub 350HP levels (maybe better torque curve though) and cost would be the same if not more because it would be a one off engine just for the Camaro (unless the LQ9 is used), the 5.3L will be used in other Zeta cars too.

Originally Posted by Z284ever
Fewer RPO codes going down the line.
No, you would still have two engine RPO codes (LS2 & LQ9) vs. (LS2 & LS4)
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

So your saying the camaro will be Zeta AWD with the 5.3L. Well it wouldn't matter newayz, alot of people will just stroke it out and you got your high powered V8 back. If it's gonna be AWD GT or Cobra if that's what it will be called won't even stand a chance. I still think it's not gonna be 5.3L.
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:32 AM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

I'd like to know how the Chevy dealer handles this.

Guy walks in dealership. Sees 3 cars on the showroom floor. LS2 Vette, LS7 Z06 Vette, and the 450+hp LSx Z/28. Walks up and sees the stickers. $43K for the base Vette, $62K for the Z06 and $35K for the Z/28. Asks the salesguy, "Why would anyone buy the base Vette?"

Salesguy "Nobody has yet, so you got me."
Old Sep 3, 2004 | 09:35 AM
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Re: The case for the 6.0L base V8.

Originally Posted by Z28x
Power would be about the same if the 6.0L is tuned down to sub 350HP levels (maybe better torque curve though) and cost would be the same if not more because it would be a one off engine just for the Camaro (unless the LQ9 is used), the 5.3L will be used in other Zeta cars too.
One off? GM doesn't do one offs my friend.....especially for Camaro. How about lets call this one "LS2". There are going to be lots of variations of LS2's. Corvette, SSR, Trailblazer SS, Regular Cab Silverado SS (maybe), and any number of Zetas.........


No, you would still have two engine RPO codes (LS2 & LQ9) vs. (LS2 & LS4)
Doubt an LQ9's intake would fit in a car.

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