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C6 brakes...what a joke....

Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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i really don't get how anyone could argue how a centrifugal air pump being turned the wrong way is a good thing.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:04 AM
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Re: C6 brakes...what a joke....

Originally Posted by WOT
Yeah TB you're a big stupid, meanie head!!! You suck!!!

It's odd how the armchair experts in this thread are calling people internet engineers when all they are doing is speculating themselves (i.e.; Aaron91RS).

The brakes are seriously flawed bottom line. And whomever designed them is a dumb@ss. Ok, ok the beancounter that placed the constraints that caused this. Opps did I post that in the GM leghumping section of CZ28.com? That reminds me why I don't post here anymore.

I'm done here. bye
I love it when people who can't spell "oops" correctly (and use "whomever" in place of "whoever") call other people dumbasses.



I'm done here. Bye.

Old Jan 20, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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Re: C6 brakes...what a joke....

Apologies -- I didn't realize that it was the vents which were directional. I thought we were talking about slots.

Regardless of the vane angle, at any reasonable speed (say, greater than 10mph), centrifugal force will pull air out of the vents. The only possible way to prevent that would be to have the vanes between the vents curved so far that they came back towards the center of the rotor.

I'm not saying there isn't a problem -- I just see this getting blown way out of proportion and I'd like to settle some nerves. Yes, there is going to be inconsistent heat buildup from one side of the car to the other. But, if you're working the brakes hard enough to get the right side to the point of failure, you're operating too close to the limits of the hardware anyway and you should upgrade your brakes.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Re: C6 brakes...what a joke....

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But, if you're working the brakes hard enough to get the right side to the point of failure, you're operating too close to the limits of the hardware anyway and you should upgrade your brakes.
See that sounds awfully close to a cop-out. If the braking limit on that side of the car is reduced 20%, then it takes 20% less of a driver to reach the limit...

Yeah, you went and bought a $70,000 car advertised to be track ready, oh and so you better drop another $3000 on brakes first. Enough with the excuses guys...no it is not the end of the world but it is a bid disappointment for a company supposedly figuring out how to build great cars.

GM always misses on the details.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
......

GM, MB & Ford always miss on the details.
There, fixed it for you...

BTW, I agree that it must have been those evil beancounters again, because there's no excuse otherwise.....
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 03:04 PM
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I guess I should be happy that the Viper's rotors aren't drilled?

I wonder if the vanes go the right way on both sides.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Re: C6 brakes...what a joke....

Originally Posted by JakeRobb
If the slots are going backwards, that does NOT mean it's going to add extra heat to the rotor. It's just not going to cool as efficiently.
Originally Posted by Chris 96 WS6
What's the difference? Net effect in the end is increased rotor temp on one side of the car vs. the other.
You know, it's the same as if you're going 40mph, and you have wired up the radiator fans to run backward, it's not going to add any extra heat to the the radiator...

(therefore the engine isn't going to run any hotter, right?)

Just because the air can't flow correctly through the cooling surfaces, shouldn't make any difference at all....

In fact, I should just take the fans off for weight reduction. And the air dam on the bottom of the car. Taking that off won't add any extra heat to the radiator either......

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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:12 PM
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Re: C6 brakes...what a joke....

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You know, it's the same as if you're going 40mph, and you have wired up the radiator fans to run backward, it's not going to add any extra heat to the the radiator...
Ah but John it doesn't matter which way the fan blades are curved...
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 04:56 PM
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You know, GM wired the intercooler pumps backwards on all the Ion Redlines and Cobalt SS's too. They need to fire whoever this dyslexic engineer is in their pumping department.
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:05 PM
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Hhmmmmm....notice that this is definately the right side, **edit** the vanes are wrong direction......


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Old Jan 20, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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Aftermarket rotors?
Old Jan 20, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Nope....the guy bought a set of rotors and calipers from a dealer....

But my bad, the vanes are wrong....

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