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Old May 19, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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I think the thing is case in point GM cant play follow the leader since everyone is trying to catch GM, being number one you look back and change to what people have put out. That makes product late to market. Remeber DCX's DoD surprise to market after GM touting it as there great acheivement to just have the rug thrown out from under them.

And Im just throwing this out as a warning, Caddy is doing great but..and there is a but...some of Caddy is starting to wear off and only new marketing will keep them fresh, even with older vehicles..they did it already why not do it again..
and the same goes for Pontiac..but opposite they have no soul..what am i? they ask..sudo-luxury? excitement? what..

DCX took that show car concept to reality on almost everything they built..Viprer, PT, the SRT line of cars..the list goes on..while like said GM builds these works of art the turn to vanilla if produced or not at all. GM needs to make show concept reality ready cars..

and Buickman..a concept Camaro that was ready for production..well that would floor everyone and get a fire under GM's butt to do something right..
Old May 19, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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A new Camaro? I can hear it now, can you...???
"Listen to the Heartbeat of America, that's TODAY'S Chevrolet".
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:12 AM
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Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.

Originally Posted by 91_z28_4me
1fastdog, if you are going to comment don't be so blatent that you can figure out what each step is. Make generalizations about the proposal in public. In private email you can discuss each and every step in detail.

Please edit your post.
In defense of 1Fastdog, I think his intent was to give Buickman his take on the proposed 20 steps without actually posting the 20 steps.

That said, it appears that just about anyone can get the 20 steps.....so I'm not so sure why he's being secretive of them.......
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Red Planet

That said, it appears that just about anyone can get the 20 steps.....so I'm not so sure why he's being secretive of them.......
Perhaps to compile a list of email addresses?
Old May 20, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Perhaps to compile a list of email addresses?
Bingo! You never know when some of us might be interested in a buick.
Old May 20, 2005 | 08:36 AM
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Bingo! You never know when some of us might be interested in a buick.

yea when the GN comes back..if ever..

or if they import the one via china by the way of Holden..as a buick..


Buickman you have seen the buick they sell in China made by holden whats you take on that buick??
Old May 20, 2005 | 08:46 AM
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Re: Buickman will call for Wagoner's ouster at shareholder's meeting.

Originally Posted by Caps94ZODG
yea when the GN comes back..if ever..

or if they import the one via china by the way of Holden..as a buick..


Buickman you have seen the buick they sell in China made by holden whats you take on that buick??
It is called the Royale, not to be confused with the quarter pounder's name in Europe(Royale).
Old May 20, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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Actually the reason is to keep the ideas form competitors. I have received hundreds of responses from as far away as Australia, UK, Columbia, and many from Canada. The discussions have been in depth and very helpful. As a side benefit I have developed a fantastic email list. However there is no intention to use this info for prospecting for buyers. If anyone does want a price though feel free to get with me. More importantly, keep those responses coming. I've learned some very insightful things and really appreciate all the sincere efforts. You folks are passionate and knowledgeable well beyond what I ever might have expected.

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Old May 20, 2005 | 01:45 PM
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It is called the Royale, not to be confused with the quarter pounder's name in Europe(Royale).
Do you mean Buick Royaum?


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Old May 20, 2005 | 02:51 PM
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Perhaps to compile a list of email addresses?
Originally Posted by gtjeff
Bingo! You never know when some of us might be interested in a buick.
Man! You guys are brutal!
Old May 20, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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D*mn I suck
Old May 20, 2005 | 03:43 PM
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D*mn I suck
Hey man, no biggy.
Old May 20, 2005 | 03:45 PM
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Hey man, no biggy.
Maybe I need a Royale w/ cheese to get me though the day.
Old May 22, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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I am surprised how many fail to see the ultimate failure of LaNeve's plan to MINImize Buick. Our engineers and stylists certainly have the talent and ability to design and produce enough models of significance to bring the division back to it's rightful place as a full line brand. The commonality imposed by finance executives looking to save a few dollars is what is really responsible for the demise of the foundation stone of General Motors. The effort to combine single point stores with other franchises is truly nothing more than the next step in the plan to eventually close the line.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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I am surprised how many fail to see the ultimate failure of LaNeve's plan to MINImize Buick. Our engineers and stylists certainly have the talent and ability to design and produce enough models of significance to bring the division back to it's rightful place as a full line brand. The commonality imposed by finance executives looking to save a few dollars is what is really responsible for the demise of the foundation stone of General Motors. The effort to combine single point stores with other franchises is truly nothing more than the next step in the plan to eventually close the line.
Jim Dollinger
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So you're saying that Buick should be a full line division?



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