Doesn't the Opel version of the car get a 3.0 liter turbocharged V-6?

 

2.8

 

The Buick website had the GS up as "coming late 2010" since it was first announced. They must have pulled that label down for obvious reasons.
[QUOTE=maksik7Exactly.. I see this car as a perfect replacement for my GTP[/QUOTE]
There are a LOT of GTP guys that were very excited about this car (and many still are), but until they're on the road, we have no idea how they'll do. And it may tip the scales at nearly (or just about) $40,000, making this in the same ballpark as a G8 GXP.

I'm amazed nobody hit this line yet...
A 3" factory exhaust on a turbo 4 cylinder...

 

The 3.0L turbo doesn't exist yet, at least not in production yet.

A 3.0L TT Regal, I would be all over that. Especially with the fancy AWD system that it is supposed to have.

 

Well, the wheels sure are nice looking, but that doesn't make it sporty. 295 torques will help it get out of the way, but 3700lbs (probably before options) is a lot to move. I certainly like the manual, and wish more cars came with one, but just having a manual doesn't scream sporty. Also, someone else mentioned that this thing might hover around the $40k mark, and you can get an Infinity G37 Sport for that kind of money.

Oh yeah, FWD=wrong wheel drive.

 

Looks like they were trying to keep 4cyl across the board.

The Insignia OPC weighs just over 4000lbs btw...

 

Okay, here's where I'm at.....

The GS looks cool. It's got the very nice Recaros seen in the concept and a bunch of other bling-bling bits I liked. Cool wheels? Check. Stick? Check. Great handling? Check.

So....

This should be great car.......for $32K. At around $40K, it's full of fail.

 

Considering the Regal CXL turbos go from $29k to $34.5k, I'd see this hitting $4k higher, as high as $38k, which to me is "close enough" to $40k once you add in fees and taxes and everything else. Not to mention some dealers may try and mark these puppies up.

With or without AWD, it probably will still be a good car, but good enough to "wow" people? I don't know.

My next questions are with the 2012 Malibu being stable mate to the Regal, will the new Malibu be any nicer than the current one, offer a manual trans in any configuration, and will the Recaro seats and Brembo brakes bolt right up (we know how GM loves part bin sharing, so they might use the same spindles and seat mounting points)?

 

And therein lies the problem. It needs to be the best car in it's class, not the best Buick.

So this Buick is the perfect replacement for a car that according to GM, should've been a Chevrolet anyway? What's wrong with that statement?

 

just reading about this the car fall short.

If anything the car needs 300HP and if so AWD. where is that Opel AWD masterpeice that we saw? Why is that not just brought here???

you want people to buy into Buick being a performance lux. brand..its gotta have some power.

Has does this compare to the LS4 Supers?

 

That's the question. GM is in the position that they should be striving to overdeliver. We'll see.

Car and Driver is reporting that initially, it will be 6 speed manual only. I have to say, I kind of like that.

BTW, they're also saying that those Recaro looking seats are not Recaros on the production GS.

 

LOL. Why am I not surprised? God forbid GM ever actually DELIVER.

 

That is true............... no Recaros.

Blogs all over the web are crucifying the car. When GM talked about it almost a year ago, they hinted that they were working on more horsepower, and that the car would have the XWD. With XWD, you could have pulled in those who don't like FWD.

Instead, you get a small midsize with middle of the line power, FWD, and an expensive window sticker. Yes it looks good, but I don't think that will be enough. You can buy AWD sport midsize V6 cars for alot less than this, and an AWD MKZ for about the same.

BTW, C&D just put the Turbo CXL Regal as 3rd out of 3, in their test. It was the slowest (15.7 in the quarter), the heaviest, and the thirstiest by far. It didn't even handle all that great.

Frankly, I find the car to be a huge disappointment. AWD is the biggie for many, who have now taken it off of their consideration list.

 

Interesting thought, but since the Regal CXL Turbo is "fully loaded" at $34.5k, is the GS going to have all those same options standard, plus the GS exclusive bits, or is it going to start more like one of the lower tiered CXL options wise and then go up.

I don't want to make any conclusions about this car before it comes out and the price structure is solid. It seems like it is sort of in a weird place with sort of "in between" performance compared to offerings at Acura, Audi and Lexus...

 

this was exaclty what Iwas thinking..hence my asking what or where did the Opel go that is such an amazing car??