z28...we have extensive coverage on the source regarding all of your topics.

 

Great ad for your site...Why not post your info here to contribute to this thread?

 

I read today that the guy actually DROVE the car around the parking lot. Detroit News has the story on their site.
He was fired from his job and civil action may happen.

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...702240360/1148


For what he probably made, losing his job was well worth it. He was probably the first "civilian" to drive a Blue Devil.

 

this is something i dont get. when the camaro photos were leaked GM demanded all sites take them down. With the corvette photos its sorta like ah there already out.

 

well, this is a completely different situation for one...

 

I don't work for free, do you? I wanted to help provide information that people have wrong. Apparently, knowing the truth is not important as a fantasized story about this being a "viral marketing" approach by GM is a far more sensational story.

 

That's pretty insulting. You assume that as the owner of this site that you post on, I work for free? What about all of the other people who come to this site and do provide information for "free"?

If you are here to provide information that is not "free" and just spam this site about yours, stop coming here. Seriously.

So far you haven't posted ANY information here in this thread. Perhaps you shoudl read this again:
Good question...why not? This site is for people to SHARE information, on THIS site. It is not a free service to use to increase traffic to your site. I know I haven't made this point before.

A year ago, this was posted.

5 months later, this was posted:
Our patience is pretty much gone on this. I hate to sound like the bad guy here, but we are to the point where we feel very taken advantage of. That is not going to be a problem here any more. Please do not "forget" this fact as we will not.

Once again, this point should be very clear so no rebuttal is required nor will one be welcome.

So back to the original topic of this thread...

 

Yet you come here and expect to advertise your site for free.

You don't see the admin/mods of this site trying to get hits for this site at yours...

For the record, the only reason that others are allowed to promote sites in their sigs is because they ASK!

 

There is no intellectual property theft unless he reduces the car to practice - meaning he has to build one and SELL IT in a manner that violates someone's patent or a trademark.

Taking a picture of a car is not a crime. Basically, you can take a picture of anything you want, ANY TIME you want - except in certain very specific cases (taking pictures that compromise NATIONAL security being one of them - Corvette doesn't qualify there).

GM might pursue a nonsense civil case against him for damages on those terms, but the first rule of sueing people is:

Don't sue poor people.

What would they win??? NOTHING. They get a black eye for beating up on the "Little Guy", and that's all that will happen.


Apparently he may also have DRIVEN it, which is another issue entirely. That might loosely be construed as theft... although he returned the car... obviously.

 

Nothing.

100% GM's fault. In the future they need to take better care of their own security.

Most likely what will happen is some veiled retribution against the shipping company, not described as retribution on the face of it, but there will be some other excuse offered as to why they are no longer sourced business.

 

would you blame them? The shipping company was trusted and it broke that trust.

 

They could have covered it and put it on a palette like F1 cars do.

 

man if he actually drove the car thats crazy, although i would probably gladly loose my job too to drive that car. I mean he was the first person to really drive the car, and someone working in a job like that would probably never get a chance to drive a car like that ever anyway. Im sure he could find another job but he will probably never get a chance to drive that car again.

 

I can't believe he was stupid enough to drive it around... other than where he was told to drive it in order to be shipped out. (He obviously was given the keys, otherwise how did he open the hood to take the photos?)

Next thing you know, we'll be reading that he was caught having sex with it.

 

The following is not meant to be confrontational, just laying it all out:

Where was GM's representative in all this? If the security of the car is that important, GM can't see to it that the car is secured?

There is a difference between stealing somebody's actual property (for example, an internal GM document was published on the internet a while back), and taking a picture of a car. The "intellectual property" of a picture is owned by the guy who snaps the shutter - not the object/person IN THE PICTURE, unless the person with the camera has voluntarily surrendered those rights, through an agreement of some sort.

First, GM has absolutely no business allowing the car to be exposed like that unless they want pictures plastered all over the internet.

Second, they can TRY TO strong-arm little-guy website operators, but any site with an attorney is going to tell them to go pound sand and plaster them on their front page - and legally, there isn't a darned thing GM can do about it.

Don't want pictures of your car taken? Don't allow the car to be put in a position where it can be photographed.

Finally, and understand this clearly, the major publications for automotive news are beholden to the car companies for income. GM advertises in those publications. The major publications generally toe the line and publish things when the car companies tell them to in most cases simply because they know where their bread is buttered.

The action will never be as overt as legal action. First, it is unseemly to do so and GM wants to protect it's reputation. Second, GM will lose. Third, GM uses the 'carrot and stick' technique with the press:

Publish a picture we don't like??? No goodies for you.

The difference between the little-guy websites and Motor Trend? The dollar value or importance of the goodies.


Security of a pre-production or prototype vehicle is GM's responsibility. They will either take that responsibility or have folks taking pictures of their cars and plaster them all over the internet.