What timing. In this test of a 2010 Challenger V6, there's a link to a test of the 1970 model with a Hemi.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...d_test?cid=327

Let's just say that the period editors of C&D were not big fans of the Challenger. It's an interesting read, and I find it quite ironic that the 1970 Hemi Challenger is today one of the most desirable regular production cars of that era.

 

That'd be fine with me.

Personally, I see no value in a large coupe with a small interior. My first car was a 1970 Olds Delta 88 hardtop. Now that there is a large coupe - with a large interior.

 

And I like large coupes with small interiors. (Actually cozy but not cramped would be more accurate.)

To each his own I guess. My first car was a 1967 Chevelle Malibu hardtop. (It even had a bench seat.) However that was only because the price was right ($600) and I couldn't find a 67-69 Camaro I could afford at the time. (1983.)

 

My first was a 69 Chevelle (307 2bbl, powerglide). It too had a bench seat. $600 in 1981.

 

Man you guys are old

 

I don't see the point of a small interior in a large vehicle. The opposite makes more sense though.

 

My 88 had a bench seat too. Rocket 350, recurved distributor, flipped aircleaner lid and B&M shiftkit. It could spin the tires (actually tire) for a city block.

I could also bring 5 (at least) of my friends along. No other reason to have a large coupe.

 

And the bench seats were great at the drive-in movies.

 

Oh yes indeedy....

 

Ahaha Charlie you know when I got to see and sit in the Regal GS, I thought you might really like it.
With the AWD system, up to 85% of the power is sent to the rear wheels in GS mode.
And they want more power out of the engine before they put it on sale next year.

 

Like most others - I hope that the 6th gen Camaro will be lighter(hopeful about 300lbs) than the 2010. I also hope that the styling will stay true to the Camaro legacy.

The weight is the only real issue - I have with the 2010 model - as it's the heaviest Camaro ever. It's more than 100 lbs heavier that the heaviest 2nd gen.

That said to true to the Camaro legacy - requires that a V8 is available for the Z28/SS model. And yes GM could quite easily and yet get better fuel economy - How? By simply going with a DOHC design and a smaller displacement engine - say something in the 4.6-5.0L range. It's interesting to note - that adding 2 extra cylinders to the LLT V6, in the base 2010 Camaro would net a 4.8L V8, that would have about 400-430 horsepower. And combined a car which is about 300lbs lighter - you would have a Camaro SS or Z28 that is faster that the current SS.

 

Why do you think DOHC would get better mileage?

The Chrysler and GM OHV engines seem to be competitive on power and fuel mileage when they have VVT and cylinder deactivation. The 2010 Dodge Charger hemi is rated at 16/25 EPA, and it's a 4100 pound car. I can't think of any 4.6-5.0 dohc V8s that do better in similar-sized cars. Did I miss one?

 

IMHO, GM should stick with its current V8 as long as possible. I don' t know of any reasonably priced. DOHC that could do any better. 4V designs certainly have advantages.....but like most things in life, there are always compromises.

 

I'm hoping 300 pounds or so is the magic number as well.

I think the 'ole smallblock still has some tricks up it's sleeve though, especially in Gen V form.

Things to keep in mind about a DOHC design:

1) It takes up more space.
2) It weighs more.
3) It's more complex.
4) It costs more.
5) It generally operates at higher RPM.

 

Which also brings up the question, should/can the 6th gen have two different V8's? One designed for volume and better FE and one designed for lower volume and higher performance.