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Old Dec 24, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by TheV6Bird
Yup. Last night on ABC news, they had a report of a Chinese electric car that would be like the Chevy Volt (it looks just like a Toyota Corrolla), and it would cost $22,000 compared to $40,000 for the Volt, and it gets better battery range than the Volt. They hope to penetrate the US market in two years.
I assume you're referring to the BYD Auto FD3M plug-in hybrid.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/12/20/byd_f3dm/

According to this article, it sounds like BYD Auto has a few hurdles to overcome before they can begin selling them stateside.

However I truly believe they've got the pricing nailed. A plug-in hybrid small sedan should not sell for more than $30k (US).
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 05:45 PM
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Where are GM's engineers when it comes to designing these class-leading systems? Does GM have anything onthe drawing board to match or beat this system, or are all their eggs in the Volt basket? It sounds like a great system in need of a better looking car.
If Ford can do this with it's comparitively smaller resources than GM, imagine what GM could do if it got off it's **** and got serious.

Yes, the Volt is an impressive bit of technology, but seriously!

GM is depending on government money to keep the Volt's list price below $40,000, and GM will lose money on the thing no matter what happens (and keep in mind the thing's based on the Delta chassis, so it's essentially a small Cobalt!).

It's begining to seem that GM has lost so much money for so long, they are building losses into their business plan and thinking it's great.

Instead of chaining those engineers to the Volt, how about freeing them up and letting them find a way to squeeze another 15 mpg out of the Malibu's Hybrid system while reducing the cost of the system, keeping the total price below 28 grand like Ford has done with Fusion??

GM would actually make money and if they sold a ton of them, they would actually make money instead of being driven deeper into the hole.
Old Dec 25, 2008 | 06:48 PM
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GM's "hybrid" system isn't really a hybrid. IMO it should be called SSA for Start Stop Assistance since as far as I'm aware all the "hybrid" systems on the cars do it really shut down the engine instead of idling.
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