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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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And the Mustang is in fact a 2 door sedan per SAE as it has slightly greater than 33cuft of rear passenger volume.

Additionally, in more common usage a 2 door is a sedan if it has a B pillar behind the front glass. More precisely, the Mustang is a Fastback sedan.
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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I thought the Mustang was a coupe. Then again I thought that sedans had 4 doors and coupes had 2 doors -I've never considered it a sports car (sports car has become so bastardized by the general public that it has come to mean more or less to most poeple a high performance version - be it just a sticker job with some body cladding slapped on to something with a bit stiffer suspension and a few extra horsepower), but I consider it a sports coupe, then again maybe it could be considered a muscle car owing to its live axle/V8 configuration - it certainly meets the weight requirements (just needs a bit larger engine I think to truly be a muscle car)

Methinks this would suffice, it is supposed to the be a 427 CID Boss Mule.

Old Sep 12, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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mule? more like a display peice of what they can do with the Mustang..
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by bossco
I thought the Mustang was a coupe. Then again I thought that sedans had 4 doors and coupes had 2 doors -I've never considered it a sports car (sports car has become so bastardized by the general public that it has come to mean more or less to most poeple a high performance version - be it just a sticker job with some body cladding slapped on to something with a bit stiffer suspension and a few extra horsepower), but I consider it a sports coupe, then again maybe it could be considered a muscle car owing to its live axle/V8 configuration - it certainly meets the weight requirements (just needs a bit larger engine I think to truly be a muscle car)

Methinks this would suffice, it is supposed to the be a 427 CID Boss Mule.

Not convinced it's a mule, unless they're testing out new engine components via racing.
Old Sep 12, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Ive seen Ford on more than a few occassions bring out Mustang engineering mules to drag race at 131 dragway in Martin , MI . They had quite a few 05's there before the car came out .
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by bossco
I thought the Mustang was a coupe. Then again I thought that sedans had 4 doors and coupes had 2 doors.
By traditional definition, whether a vehicle is a "coupe" or "sedan" is like HAZ-Matt said, measured by interior volume rather than by number of doors.
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bossco
I thought the Mustang was a coupe. Then again I thought that sedans had 4 doors and coupes had 2 doors -I've never considered it a sports car (sports car has become so bastardized by the general public that it has come to mean more or less to most poeple a high performance version - be it just a sticker job with some body cladding slapped on to something with a bit stiffer suspension and a few extra horsepower), but I consider it a sports coupe, then again maybe it could be considered a muscle car owing to its live axle/V8 configuration - it certainly meets the weight requirements (just needs a bit larger engine I think to truly be a muscle car)

Methinks this would suffice, it is supposed to the be a 427 CID Boss Mule.

Dude, this car is a field competitor in NMRA's OC class.
This is no mule of any kind except for some race team.
This car is privately owned me-betsya. (sweet though!)

Maybe Bob will recognize it from the hood or car number... I'll have to wait 'til I get home to look it up.

As for wild engines in S197 cars... I have a paper article from 3 months back about a guy who has shoehorned a Vanquish V12 into his S197.
Un-freakin-B-leavable.
427s, 429s, and a slew of other new and old engines have been dropped into these now. A 427 does not surprise me.
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Ok - didn't need to go home after all, just logged in and did a membership search...

How about Don Bowles... Open Comp winner at this year's Nitto Nationals in Bradenton, FL.


Here's a link to the article from Roush Racing that spec's the engine as fueled by E85. It is developmental, but it's not something from Ford's secret engine shop or anything. It's a Roush development being done between Roush and Don's race shop.

Here's the image of the engine/car posted above in other posts, but with detail clouds...
http://www.roushperformance.com/pdfs/5-RP0907.pdf

Another image...


Article about the engine and car...
Roush Performance wins title at Bradenton NMRA Event!

I feel like I need a job on mythbusters or something...
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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LOL.

Ya, saw that car at Bradenton, and I believe it was at Atco this year too (only two races I attended). Definately a Roush "shop car". Didn't take a hard look at it in the pits or the lanes though. Sorry.

Bob
Old Sep 13, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ProudPony
Dude, this car is a field competitor in NMRA's OC class.
This is no mule of any kind except for some race team.
This car is privately owned me-betsya. (sweet though!)

Maybe Bob will recognize it from the hood or car number... I'll have to wait 'til I get home to look it up.

As for wild engines in S197 cars... I have a paper article from 3 months back about a guy who has shoehorned a Vanquish V12 into his S197.
Un-freakin-B-leavable.
427s, 429s, and a slew of other new and old engines have been dropped into these now. A 427 does not surprise me.
Well I did say "supposed", info on the Duke Nukem II V8's is so sketchy other than that they my show up in '11, the picture popped up in forum discussing an OZ article, where they said Ford's next gen V8 was supposed to be pushrod instead of OHC, which struck alot of people as odd since the next V8s are supposed to OHC.

Jeez, I gtta find a BB Ford pic to check out the water pump location, but I swear they dont sit that high.

I'm not complaining, its a win/win either way if the engine has the right bore spacing and you can get 5 to 7 liters out of it, just wish Ford would release something about it.

I'm looking at the engine and hit has a water pump sitting up high like the mod motors and the valve covers are reminiscent of the 2v motors, but I dont see a cover for the cam drive? just looks like the cylinderhead is attached to the block?

lol, it also looks like ots got a clutch capble as well (look back on the firewall and it appears to have a cable adjuster along with the rubber covered spiral cable housing they used).

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Old Sep 23, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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Hey, I remembered something from Roush in a 20 questions type article (was in a Mustang rag, I can't remeber which one), but they were talking about a 6.0 liter mod motor and that could be this engine, a very tall block mod motor, maybe even sporting slightly larger bores??????
Old Sep 23, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ProudPony
Here's the image of the engine/car posted above in other posts, but with detail clouds...
http://www.roushperformance.com/pdfs/5-RP0907.pdf

Another image...


Article about the engine and car...
Roush Performance wins title at Bradenton NMRA Event!

I feel like I need a job on mythbusters or something...
Sweet.
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