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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Re: 2008 450hp 6.2L V8 Corvette?

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OK, lot's of speculation to follow.....

For all those who want a SC 6.2 for the top Camaro, be careful what you wish for.

I hope no one is under the impression that Camaro would get a 600 hp version of this engine. But IF such a motor would be made available in Camaro....what would it be rated at? 475? 485? 500? Let's say...oh what the heck....500hp. Would the block on this motor be iron or aluminum? I suspect iron. Weight....iron block vs al? How much would the blower, intercooler, plumbing, etc. add in weight? Let's call it all 150 lbs over the front wheels. How much more would this package cost than a NA version? $4,000?

Is all that weight, cost and complexity really worth it? Call me a wimp, but if I have 450-500 hp, I'm pretty sure moddability to get another 100 or so, is not at the top of MY wish list.

What I'd rather see for the top Camaro............. is this 6.2 getting the "LS6 treatment". Bigger cam, better heads, better valvetrain, intake/exhaust .....you know ...good, honest, old fashioned hotrodding. Does anyone doubt that such a Camaro 6.2 wouldn't get into the 450-475 hp range? I'd take that lighter, simpler, less expensive package....no problem.
i'm 100% with you on this one! i'm still for getting the LS7 from the get-go, but a hotrodded out 6.2 works just fine for me.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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Anyone ever notice this among premium brands?

GM's choice of power adding usually superchargers. (New Caddy v-series)
Mercedes is turbo.
Lexus is electric motors.
BMW is N/A.

Just something I was thinking about for some reason... It's like they're trying to differentiate from eachother.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Interesting thought, Mecca. Keep in mind, though, that not all GM power adders will be superchargers... The ecotec exists in turbo form (at Saab, and perhaps a little closer to home soon), and Saab also has a turbocharged high feature V6 starting this year. Maybe they want to keep their options open (and build expertise in the turbo area).
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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Re: 2008 450hp 6.2L V8 Corvette?

Originally Posted by Meccadeth
Anyone ever notice this among premium brands?

GM's choice of power adding usually superchargers. (New Caddy v-series)
Mercedes is turbo.
Lexus is electric motors.
BMW is N/A.

Just something I was thinking about for some reason... It's like they're trying to differentiate from eachother.
Mercedes just recently started using turbos in their ultra expensive cars, so I still think of them as supercharging everything. Audi is a luxury car company that, until recently, seemed to love to turbo everything.

Lexus still doesn't use enough electric motors in its current models for me to start thinking that way, but it will only be a matter of time if they have everything go their way.

GM's choice of big power motors has usually been really big displacement. They have used FI more than a few times in the past (Grand National, Syclone/Typhoon, upcoming Solstice turbo, supercharged Cobalt, supercharged v-series, etc, etc), but when it comes to making big numbers GM has always been about NA big displacement. That seems like it will change in the next few years, but that is the current and past trend I have seen at GM.

Ford is that company that seems to be supercharging everything recently.

Companies like BMW and Ferrari seem to take pride in making big power out of intermediate sized NA engines that like to rev, and even Honda follows that example, although with much smaller engines.

I do think they try to differentiate from each other to a degree. Every company has a different design philosphy, and a different way they like to see things done. Personally, I like the diversity. Things get boring when everything is the same.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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Re: 2008 450hp 6.2L V8 Corvette?

Originally Posted by Z284ever
OK, lot's of speculation to follow.....

For all those who want a SC 6.2 for the top Camaro, be careful what you wish for.

I hope no one is under the impression that Camaro would get a 600 hp version of this engine. But IF such a motor would be made available in Camaro....what would it be rated at? 475? 485? 500? Let's say...oh what the heck....500hp. Would the block on this motor be iron or aluminum? I suspect iron. Weight....iron block vs al? How much would the blower, intercooler, plumbing, etc. add in weight? Let's call it all 150 lbs over the front wheels. How much more would this package cost than a NA version? $4,000?

Is all that weight, cost and complexity really worth it? Call me a wimp, but if I have 450-500 hp, I'm pretty sure moddability to get another 100 or so, is not at the top of MY wish list.

What I'd rather see for the top Camaro............. is this 6.2 getting the "LS6 treatment". Bigger cam, better heads, better valvetrain, intake/exhaust .....you know ...good, honest, old fashioned hotrodding. Does anyone doubt that such a Camaro 6.2 wouldn't get into the 450-475 hp range? I'd take that lighter, simpler, less expensive package....no problem.
Spoken like an engineer.

Let's keep things simple. There's enough power to be gained with GM's NA engines... 6.2L V8 with mods is decent grunt.

Don't know what it's like in the States but insurance companies here in Aus wouldn't want to know about you if you drove a blown V8 Holden/HSV... Lots of companies wouldn't insure my stock LS1 SS Commodore...

I've never been a fan of the blown engine for the above reasons.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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So are we arguing about whether you want a engine that will go 10s with a cam and exhaust change or an engine what will go low, low 10s with a pulley and exhaust change? I must be missing something.

This is like arguing about what muffler sounds better. It really doesn't matter, they all make the car LOUD!
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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Nothing beats factory F/I imo. Skyline, 03-04 Cobra, SupraTT, GN. All are destined to be classics, and their potential is legendary. Dollar for dollar in mods, not too many N/A engines beat their potential. So GM possibly going the F/I route is a good thing imo. We've all seen what a factory blown v8 can do in the 03-04 Cobra's.

Hell, i'd like to see a 700hp TT Ls7 if they ever decide to do a bluedevil.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gold_Rush
Dollar for dollar in mods, not too many N/A engines beat their potential.
Yes, and that is why I feel that unless the LS7 graces the Camaro, we are probably better off with a blown 6.2. I would prefer a bigger NA engine, but in the end power is power. Just as long as the blown 6.2 isn't iron. I seriously doubt that a beefy LS block needs to be cast iron to handle boost.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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SSbaby made a good point. insurance companies are gonna hand us our A$$ when we go in and say "hello, i'm here to insure my SUPERCHARGED Camaro. what will my premium be"

at least where i'm from, a GT and a Cobra bring way different rate quotes from the companies. i think they'd be nicer if it was an n/a motor, but for some reason, they do not like FI.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Re: 2008 450hp 6.2L V8 Corvette?

Originally Posted by Gold_Rush
Nothing beats factory F/I imo. Skyline, 03-04 Cobra, SupraTT, GN. All are destined to be classics, and their potential is legendary. Dollar for dollar in mods, not too many N/A engines beat their potential. So GM possibly going the F/I route is a good thing imo.
Agreed! Blown 6.2

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by turbo96z28
i'm with you on this one....nothing is better than bone stock power with no help.
Pretty funny you'd agree with the no-turbo statement...considering your screen name and all...

John
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:08 PM
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Re: 2008 450hp 6.2L V8 Corvette?

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SSbaby made a good point. insurance companies are gonna hand us our A$$ when we go in and say "hello, i'm here to insure my SUPERCHARGED Camaro. what will my premium be"

at least where i'm from, a GT and a Cobra bring way different rate quotes from the companies. i think they'd be nicer if it was an n/a motor, but for some reason, they do not like FI.

My SUPERCHARGED Cobra was less to insure than my Vette coupe and my Dodge RAM.

The Iron blocks are not that much more. less than 60 lbs I believe.

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Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:19 PM
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Sorry buddy but you missed my point completely. Morb D
Whats your point read the info he has it will clear up your babbeling and BS!
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 08:25 PM
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LS7... Is it possible to supercharge it? A procharger would work and TT would, but belt driven? The other problem is the very thin cylinder walls! I think its strong enough but that might be a little risky. They definately have more room to tune it tho.
Old Sep 21, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil Turbo SS
My SUPERCHARGED Cobra was lessto insure than my Vette coupe and my Dodge RAM.

The Iron blocks are not that much heavyer. less than 60 lbs I believe
An Iron LQ9 is roughly 90lbs heavier than the LS1, if memory serves more correctly. 90lbs that is going to be hard to lose, and is being added over the wrong side of the car.



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