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Old Jan 23, 2005 | 09:18 PM
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I think the "around 30k" comment is def. wrong. But if a Cobra comes in at around 36-38k, I dont see why a Camaro (if built) cannot be made to compete with it if the "Vette Rule" does not exist.
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 12:22 PM
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But if a Cobra comes in at around 36-38k, I dont see why a Camaro (if built) cannot be made to compete with it if the "Vette Rule" does not exist.
The "Vette Rule" doesn't exist at GM as a whole, just within Chevrolet. Think about it, what would be the motivation to do a 500 HP Camaro that's priced $20,000 less than a 500 HP Corvette? Who's buying the Corvette in that case? Mustang has always had an inherant advantage because the ceiling is higher (there wasn't even a "ceiling" before GT40).
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
The "Vette Rule" doesn't exist at GM as a whole, just within Chevrolet. Think about it, what would be the motivation to do a 500 HP Camaro that's priced $20,000 less than a 500 HP Corvette? Who's buying the Corvette in that case? Mustang has always had an inherant advantage because the ceiling is higher (there wasn't even a "ceiling" before GT40).
Its not a 500 hp vette...its a 65k plus dollar z06...If the camaro was to come out it would have the 400 hp ls2 and still be getting housed by the most recent cobra let alone the one that hasnt come out yet.
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Snorman
Only on the internet. Cobra-haters liked to point to the highest priced '03/'04 Cobras, usually a Mystichrome 'vert, and claim they were $40k.
In the real world, over the last 18-months or so, coupes left the lot for usually around $30-32k with some selling for under $30k.
That being said, I seriously doubt an '07 Cobra is going to sell for anywhere near "in and around $30k".
Upper-mid to high-30's (around $3-5k more than the '03/'04 cars) is what I'm betting. Ford pretty much held the price on the '05 cars with content taken into consideration, but I don't think they'll be able to do that with the SVT car.
It is supposed to be unveiled at the '05 NAIAS.
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I have an old hot rod and it has a sketch of what the 07 cobra is supposed to look like and that shop is fairly acurate. The current snakes were selling around here for 29k and mach 1's for 25k. It was redic. I should have gotten one when i had the chance.
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Z28Wilson
The "Vette Rule" doesn't exist at GM as a whole, just within Chevrolet. Think about it, what would be the motivation to do a 500 HP Camaro that's priced $20,000 less than a 500 HP Corvette? Who's buying the Corvette in that case? Mustang has always had an inherant advantage because the ceiling is higher (there wasn't even a "ceiling" before GT40).
That why Chevy needs to bring out a ZL1 vette with 700Hp and then they can sell a 600HP Camaro
Old Jan 24, 2005 | 10:02 PM
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That why Chevy needs to bring out a ZL1 vette with 700Hp and then they can sell a 600HP Camaro
maybe they plan to
the blue devil is still on the way afaik
maybe that is an attempt to take the corvette to extremes and present a real halo image (more than they have now, which is quite a good one) and to present room for the camaro to mess with the cobra
although, i don't think we'll be seeing one with 600 hp
you should buy a 2002 camaro zl1 with the phase III package for that
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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[QUOTE=unvc92camarors]maybe they plan to
the blue devil is still on the way afaik
QUOTE]Read on corvette forums that the blue devil program was gonna be a nogo.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by unvc92camarors
maybe they plan to
the blue devil is still on the way afaik
maybe that is an attempt to take the corvette to extremes and present a real halo image (more than they have now, which is quite a good one) and to present room for the camaro to mess with the cobra
although, i don't think we'll be seeing one with 600 hp
you should buy a 2002 camaro zl1 with the phase III package for that
I don't even think the blue-devil is even needed in the vette lineup. The z06 is impressive (and expensive @ estimated $62-75k) enough. It already eats just about all but a few handful mega-dollar supercars alive.

I'll be VERY surprised if 5th gen Camaro exceeds 400hp and that's fine with me.

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Old Jan 25, 2005 | 10:48 AM
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I don't see in the $30K range either--low $40's.

The choice of rear axle is very strange---I have never heard of a car offering a choice--I doubt that piece of info.

Looks pretty good though.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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I don't see in the $30K range either--low $40's.

The choice of rear axle is very strange---I have never heard of a car offering a choice--I doubt that piece of info.

Looks pretty good though.
I would guess somewhere in the 38-41k myself. That's assuming it handles, brakes, and moves like a real high performance machine. I like the 03-04's and want to pick one up as soon as prices hit mid teens, but i'd like to see a more agile 07 Cobra. Ford has said that they'll invest more in braking and handling and i hope that shows in the 07...especially if they plan on demanding anything near a 40k premium. That is creeping into c6 territory and so the 07 Cobra will have to be an excellent all-around performer imo.

About the choice of axles, believe it. The new Mustang platform accepts both, and a live-axle swap is pretty common in the 99-04 Cobra camp...especially the high-powered ones. I'm sure alot of the SVT consumers have demanded such option and SVT would atleast seriously consider their input. So it is quite possible. Personally, i might be more likely to opt for the live axle unless the new IRS system minimizes axle-hop unlike the old IRS system and is capable of supporting high-hp.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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Hmmm...
Clicky, clicky.
As reported in this month's MT...
The 2007 Shelby Mustang Cobra...supercharged, 550hp, aluminum 5.4, live axle, slightly heavier than the '05 GT, sub-4.0 0-60 and 1/4 mile ET's in the low-12's/high-11's.
I'm sure there will be about a bazillion posts on the automotive message boards about this within the next three days.
S.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 05:20 PM
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http://stangnet.net/showthread.php?t=536176


Basically the same thing snorman posted
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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why would they do that?
wouldn't the shelby be making the same power in acouple of years when it replaces the gt?
seems like no reason to go for that when you can have a cobra like this
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by unvc92camarors
why would they do that?
wouldn't the shelby be making the same power in acouple of years when it replaces the gt?
seems like no reason to go for that when you can have a cobra like this
I see your point. Cobra isnt available til 07....Ford GT's been available since 04 I believe. 3 years is alot of time.Ford GT is still a much more refined car.
Old Jan 25, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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People buying a car like the Ford GT don't buy it on horsepower rating alone.

Why buy a Ferrari when you can get a 500 hp SRT-10 RAM truck?

They're two different vehicles.



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