2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
I'll stick with a clutch pedal and an M6, thanks very much
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by Jason E
I'll stick with a clutch pedal and an M6, thanks very much
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by Jason E
I'll stick with a clutch pedal and an M6, thanks very much
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...My father, a confirmed 'Vette nut, has decided that his next 'Vette is going to be a C6 auto, and I told him to wait until they brought out the 6 speed auto. The fact that it is paddle shift is mostly unimportant (I prefer to row my own, not push a button), the important fact, as I see it, is the ability to get manual transmission like gas mileage while having the convenience of the auto (which, for people with bad knees like the old man, is a very good thing).
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model
This could be really cool for people like my dad who have really bad knees. He couldn't drive a stick for to long because his left knee is all F*cked up, but he love to drive a manual. This would allow him to do both.
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by Jason E
I'll stick with a clutch pedal and an M6, thanks very much
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...
I've driven several different manu-matic and paddle shifter cars, from a G6 to a TT. I'll pass, thanks...Hopefully the paddle shifting on the Vette will be as good as the BMW SMG-III.
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by 96_Camaro_B4C
redzed, with a 6.04 ratio spread, the 2.56 rear is not just a "fuel economy" axle. Because of the extra ratios, first gear can now be over 4.00:1. Overall gearing is what ultimately matters, not just the rear end. With a 4.02:1 first gear, the overall gearing in first is 4.02 x 2.56 = 10.29:1. With a 4L65 and the 3.06 first gear, and the 3.15 "performance" axle ratio on automatic Vettes, the overall gearing in first is 3.06 x 3.15 = 9.64:1. On the other end, in 6th gear, the 0.67 (as you said, not far from the 0.70 of the 4L65) gives an overall ratio of 0.67 x 2.56 = 1.72. That creams the 0.70 x 3.15 = 2.21 of the "performance" axle 4 speed auto. It even bests the 0.70 x 2.73 = 1.91 of the regular axle with the 4 speed. In fact, the new 6 speed auto is right on top of the 0.50 x 3.42 = 1.71 of the non-Z51 6 speed manual.
Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Aggressive gearing in the lower gears that is way ahead of the current auto, and in fact is ahead of either version of the six speed manual, combined with tall enough gearing in 6th to rival the fuel economy of the six speed manuals too.
So it has the advantage over the "performance" axle equipped current car in terms of performance, and has the fuel economy advantage over the "standard" axle, all at once. No need for a 2nd axle ratio to go with the six speed auto, though that doesn't mean they'd never do it in the future.
Sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Aggressive gearing in the lower gears that is way ahead of the current auto, and in fact is ahead of either version of the six speed manual, combined with tall enough gearing in 6th to rival the fuel economy of the six speed manuals too.
So it has the advantage over the "performance" axle equipped current car in terms of performance, and has the fuel economy advantage over the "standard" axle, all at once. No need for a 2nd axle ratio to go with the six speed auto, though that doesn't mean they'd never do it in the future.
One guy has Th-350 and 4.56s! I tell him a 700R4 is the way to go--bettter mileage, less engine wear and quicker!
My old Camaro had 2.73s----"2.73s suck" they say--and by it self---yes it does. But you cannot be so simplistic. The first gear is 3.06 and X 2.73= 8.35
Anyhow the 6 speed auto Vette should be very strong off the line and provide some faster times.
Now I desperatley have to get a 6 speed auto my 400 Firebird!
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by MacOSR
Options are great. I get tired of shifting my CTS-V and my wife can not drive stick. That is why I am looking to get a new BMW M5 to replace the CTS-V. I can have fun shifting and my wife can still drive the car.
Hopefully the paddle shifting on the Vette will be as good as the BMW SMG-III.
Hopefully the paddle shifting on the Vette will be as good as the BMW SMG-III.
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
FWIW, I think the paddle shifter thing is an OK idea... but, I really don't get it...
Two friends of mine have Grand Prix GTP Comp G's (Our GTP is not a Comp G)... and have the paddle shifters.
Both of them told me they played around with the paddle shifters for about 2-3 days, and have never used them since...
Two friends of mine have Grand Prix GTP Comp G's (Our GTP is not a Comp G)... and have the paddle shifters.
Both of them told me they played around with the paddle shifters for about 2-3 days, and have never used them since...
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
FWIW, I think the paddle shifter thing is an OK idea... but, I really don't get it...
Two friends of mine have Grand Prix GTP Comp G's (Our GTP is not a Comp G)... and have the paddle shifters.
Both of them told me they played around with the paddle shifters for about 2-3 days, and have never used them since...
Two friends of mine have Grand Prix GTP Comp G's (Our GTP is not a Comp G)... and have the paddle shifters.
Both of them told me they played around with the paddle shifters for about 2-3 days, and have never used them since...
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by falchulk
The GTP is not really what I would consider a great implementation. The SMG 2 is very fun. I only spent an hour and a half with it but I was blown away.
That very well could be.
I have never driven a paddle shift car, so I can't comment from a 1st person standpoint...
The impression I get, though, is that it'd be like picture-in-picture on a new TV... a neat idea that I'll play with when I first get it, then forget I even have it...
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
That very well could be.
I have never driven a paddle shift car, so I can't comment from a 1st person standpoint...
The impression I get, though, is that it'd be like picture-in-picture on a new TV... a neat idea that I'll play with when I first get it, then forget I even have it...
I have never driven a paddle shift car, so I can't comment from a 1st person standpoint...
The impression I get, though, is that it'd be like picture-in-picture on a new TV... a neat idea that I'll play with when I first get it, then forget I even have it...
if the computer shifts fast enough, you very well might forget about it. But its good to have the option.
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i have seen no mention of this new 6spd automatic being an SMG. Sounds like a slush box with push buttons on the steering wheel to me.
And even SMGs are not for everybody. As great as the BMW system is, i wouldn't want it in my car. It offers virtually NONE of the fun of a true manual since you have no way to manipulate the clutch yourself. Yes, at least when you're in a gear you don't have a TC between the engine and drivetrain, so you at leass get the better engine braking and control in that respect.
To me though, the fun of a manual is the clutch, you can launch exactly how you want without needing to activate a launch mode and adjust settings. If you want to dump the clutch eiether from a stop or a roll and make some smoke and noise, you can. If you want to make a quick 0-60 run and jam the hell out of second and then casually coast down, or go straight for 6th.
The other downside is, SMG is nowhere near as smooth as a real automatic either no matter how soft you set it for. So to me, it's just about the worst of both worlds. Still, if they offered it as an optin, i recognize that it would probably sell well since most peopel are so lazy.
Back on topic though, i think paddle shifted automatics are funny, as well as other catch words like 'manumatic'. Nothing that interesting to me about it, and the technology has been around as long as the -E trannies. It just took auto makers a while to realize they could market such a nearly useless feature so well.
And even SMGs are not for everybody. As great as the BMW system is, i wouldn't want it in my car. It offers virtually NONE of the fun of a true manual since you have no way to manipulate the clutch yourself. Yes, at least when you're in a gear you don't have a TC between the engine and drivetrain, so you at leass get the better engine braking and control in that respect.
To me though, the fun of a manual is the clutch, you can launch exactly how you want without needing to activate a launch mode and adjust settings. If you want to dump the clutch eiether from a stop or a roll and make some smoke and noise, you can. If you want to make a quick 0-60 run and jam the hell out of second and then casually coast down, or go straight for 6th.
The other downside is, SMG is nowhere near as smooth as a real automatic either no matter how soft you set it for. So to me, it's just about the worst of both worlds. Still, if they offered it as an optin, i recognize that it would probably sell well since most peopel are so lazy.
Back on topic though, i think paddle shifted automatics are funny, as well as other catch words like 'manumatic'. Nothing that interesting to me about it, and the technology has been around as long as the -E trannies. It just took auto makers a while to realize they could market such a nearly useless feature so well.
Last edited by notgetleft; Aug 3, 2005 at 10:25 AM.
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
paddle shifters can be fun if its done right... You can concentrate more on braking, entering, and leaving turns a bit more, instead of juggling 3 peddles and a stick while your trying to brake and set the car up smoothly at the same time...... although that itself can be part of the fun.. 
I can see myself getting one on a sports sedan.. or present muscle car.. or LSS.. or whatever they are called now..

I can see myself getting one on a sports sedan.. or present muscle car.. or LSS.. or whatever they are called now..
Re: 2006 Corvette gets 6-speed auto with paddle shift ...available at start of model year
Originally Posted by Darth Xed
I have never driven a paddle shift car, so I can't comment from a 1st person standpoint...
It should also be remembered that before GM stole the idea for the slushbox C6 Corvette, Honda tried fake paddle shifting on the unspectacular automatic version of the NSX.
In reality, it doesn't make a bit of difference if you do your manumatic shifting with a steering wheel buttons, paddles or a special slot for the gearshift lever. It's still a slushbox.


