2006 Civic Si test.
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Re: 2006 Civic Si test.
Originally Posted by SFireGT98
I just dont like how you have to rev their 4 bangers to insane levels to hit the power band. Its like you have to literally kick the car in the a** to get it moving. The S2000 I drove was fun being it was light, rwd and you could toss it around, but once again, revving to about 6 grand to get power isnt as fun as power at 2 grand
. So atleast their gearee properly. I guess a 8-9k rpm redline is pretty fun when doing spirited driving, but i'm sure it gets pretty damn annoying as a daily driver/commuter car (which is its main objective).
The engine here while peaky is a pretty impressive piece. I'm no fan of 4 bangers (supercharged or N/A, exception being turbocharged flat 4's), but imo, no one builds 4 bangers better than Honda.
Looking forward to further reviews on this car with head to head tests with the CSS, IRL, SRT4, etc... It won't have their power, but i'd be interested to see how far behind (performance wise) Honda's newest compact is compared to the domestic offering. Odd how Honda owned this market, and now they're playing catchup.
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Re: 2006 Civic Si test.
Originally Posted by Steve0
In the latest issue of Road and Track there was a comparison of the Cobalt SS to the RSX Type S. The Cobalt SS ran a 14.8 @ 96.8 to the RSX's 15.0 @ 94.8. The fastest trap I've seen for a Cobalt SS was 98mph. I've seen 96mph out of a RSX Type S before. I know magazines drivers arent the best, but its a good demonstration of how 2 cars run on the same day by the same driver perform.
Whats funny about the Road and Track article I read was that the Cobalt SS beat the RSX to 60 by a full half second, but then lost its lead at the top end of the track. I wonder if that was due to the way the Cobalt is geared, or driver error? I have yet to see one run in person at a track.
Like I said though, Honda isnt trying to outpower the Cobalt. Theyre undercutting it. They're offering a car which will ought to be as fast as the RSX Type S a good $2-3,000 less than the Supercharged SS. It also just a tad more expensive than the non supercharged SS. Say youre a young adult, looking for a cheap sporty 4 cylinder coupe, aesthetics aside, because they are totally objective, the Civic Si offers a good compromise in price, performance and options.
Whats funny about the Road and Track article I read was that the Cobalt SS beat the RSX to 60 by a full half second, but then lost its lead at the top end of the track. I wonder if that was due to the way the Cobalt is geared, or driver error? I have yet to see one run in person at a track.
Like I said though, Honda isnt trying to outpower the Cobalt. Theyre undercutting it. They're offering a car which will ought to be as fast as the RSX Type S a good $2-3,000 less than the Supercharged SS. It also just a tad more expensive than the non supercharged SS. Say youre a young adult, looking for a cheap sporty 4 cylinder coupe, aesthetics aside, because they are totally objective, the Civic Si offers a good compromise in price, performance and options.
Geared more than likely. I havent had enough runs at the track to decied if i should hold it in 3rd a little longer, or shift into fourth.
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Re: 2006 Civic Si test.
Originally Posted by Gloveperson
That car is soo close to being good. But then you look at its 2900lb curb weight and you realize that Honda has also lost its way. My dad's 84 si weighed under 2000 lbs and a 94 Si weighed under 2300lb. Too much weight for a car that used to be a go-kart on wheels that you could drive everyday.
It takes lots of bent up steel to pass all those tests.
However on the flip side, when all the defensive driving in the world fails as a fully laden SUV starts chewing on some part of your car, which would you rather be in (Well come to think of it, your probably screwed in anything less than a dump truck)?
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Re: 2006 Civic Si test.
If you look at the Dyno sheet, under normal driving, 4,000 or under, it has less than 100HP, sounds pretty doggy....kinda reminds me of my 'ol Lazer, under 5K it was a DOG, over 5K it turned into an animal!...just no fun reving the begeezus out of it day after day, just to keep pace...especialy now when 400HP is becoming common in production cars.. 
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Re: 2006 Civic Si test.
a whopping 139 ft. lb of torque? 
The MPG flat out sucks and the only useable power is when you rev the **** out of it. And it takes premium to boot?
I would not even hesitate to buy a Colbalt over a new Si.
The MPG flat out sucks and the only useable power is when you rev the **** out of it. And it takes premium to boot? I would not even hesitate to buy a Colbalt over a new Si.
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Re: 2006 Civic Si test.
Originally Posted by Kevin_G
a whopping 139 ft. lb of torque? The MPG flat out sucks and the only useable power is when you rev the **** out of it. And it takes premium to boot?
I would not even hesitate to buy a Colbalt over a new Si.
The MPG flat out sucks and the only useable power is when you rev the **** out of it. And it takes premium to boot? I would not even hesitate to buy a Colbalt over a new Si.
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Re: 2006 Civic Si test.
I don't know why you guys think the Cobalt SS is torquey down low. It might not be as weak as the Si, but you still have to rev the crap out of it to get going. That is just the nature of these high strung 4-cylinder motors. Couple of weeks ago, while looking for a car, I drove most of these pocket rockets. Between the SS, WRX, SRT-4, and RSX(not Type-S) I could notice very little difference in low end torque. They were all gutless, that's why I decided these cars were not for me. Though past 4Krpm, the FI cars just took off while the RSX remained gutless.
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