2005 Corvette Dealership Ordering Workbook
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From: Newhall, CA USA
Red Planet:
If it is so massively costly to offer more than a couple of interior and a few exterior colors today, how come they could do it in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, with cars that cost less in constant dollars and were assembled without the benefit of robots, supply chain management, and massive computing horsepower?
Is it because GM is no longer as vertically integrated as it once was?
Is it due to government regulations?
Is it because the electro-gewgaws cost much more than I think they do?
Is it because gross margins have to be higher to cover pensions, rebates, and other inefficiencies?
Serious question. I have the means and desire to buy a 500+ HP Z06 and whatever super-Vette they want to put out. But I really, really, really, really, really hate the thought of picking from such a limited palette of colors and options. It may be the deal-breaker that sends me on the custom-old-car route rather than adding to GM's current bottom line.
If it is so massively costly to offer more than a couple of interior and a few exterior colors today, how come they could do it in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, with cars that cost less in constant dollars and were assembled without the benefit of robots, supply chain management, and massive computing horsepower?
Is it because GM is no longer as vertically integrated as it once was?
Is it due to government regulations?
Is it because the electro-gewgaws cost much more than I think they do?
Is it because gross margins have to be higher to cover pensions, rebates, and other inefficiencies?
Serious question. I have the means and desire to buy a 500+ HP Z06 and whatever super-Vette they want to put out. But I really, really, really, really, really hate the thought of picking from such a limited palette of colors and options. It may be the deal-breaker that sends me on the custom-old-car route rather than adding to GM's current bottom line.
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From: buffalo ny
Originally posted by centric
Red Planet:
If it is so massively costly to offer more than a couple of interior and a few exterior colors today, how come they could do it in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, with cars that cost less in constant dollars and were assembled without the benefit of robots, supply chain management, and massive computing horsepower?
Is it because GM is no longer as vertically integrated as it once was?
Is it due to government regulations?
Is it because the electro-gewgaws cost much more than I think they do?
Is it because gross margins have to be higher to cover pensions, rebates, and other inefficiencies?
Serious question. I have the means and desire to buy a 500+ HP Z06 and whatever super-Vette they want to put out. But I really, really, really, really, really hate the thought of picking from such a limited palette of colors and options. It may be the deal-breaker that sends me on the custom-old-car route rather than adding to GM's current bottom line.
Red Planet:
If it is so massively costly to offer more than a couple of interior and a few exterior colors today, how come they could do it in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, with cars that cost less in constant dollars and were assembled without the benefit of robots, supply chain management, and massive computing horsepower?
Is it because GM is no longer as vertically integrated as it once was?
Is it due to government regulations?
Is it because the electro-gewgaws cost much more than I think they do?
Is it because gross margins have to be higher to cover pensions, rebates, and other inefficiencies?
Serious question. I have the means and desire to buy a 500+ HP Z06 and whatever super-Vette they want to put out. But I really, really, really, really, really hate the thought of picking from such a limited palette of colors and options. It may be the deal-breaker that sends me on the custom-old-car route rather than adding to GM's current bottom line.
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From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Originally posted by Red Planet
Think about this: most interior components come from hundreds of suppliers....they all must color match in terms of shading, graining, gloss level, and fit/finish......very very expensive to continue to change.......
Think about this: most interior components come from hundreds of suppliers....they all must color match in terms of shading, graining, gloss level, and fit/finish......very very expensive to continue to change.......
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From: Wichita, KS
Originally posted by Sixer-Bird
Pewter is to the 00's what teal was to the 90's. I've yet to see a car that it looks good on.
Pewter is to the 00's what teal was to the 90's. I've yet to see a car that it looks good on.
I think the teal on the 91-92 camaros is one of the nicest colors I've seen on a car, at least its a color.I didn't car for the teal too much on my car when I first got it, but now, I would have it no other way.
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The short run of colors is a good idea relative to the paint process. Builds in some exclusivity too...
Would have bought the blue SS on the lot, but didn't like the chrome ZR1 wheels on it, so I got the black one.
I need to go back to the memory banks on something here...
Plastic components can be color changed pretty quickly...
Leather takes a little work...
Fabric is a nightmare...
I wonder if the guy who used to do the color-matching at CLCD in Flint is still there. Worked in this cave with a MacBeth light... looked like death warmed over. I used to have to bring color sample parts over to him so he could bless them.
I could never figure out why GM used MacBeth lights when I can take nearly anything to Sears and they'll match the color dead on...
Maybe the technology has improved, it has been 10 years or so...
Would have bought the blue SS on the lot, but didn't like the chrome ZR1 wheels on it, so I got the black one.
I need to go back to the memory banks on something here...
Plastic components can be color changed pretty quickly...
Leather takes a little work...
Fabric is a nightmare...
I wonder if the guy who used to do the color-matching at CLCD in Flint is still there. Worked in this cave with a MacBeth light... looked like death warmed over. I used to have to bring color sample parts over to him so he could bless them.
I could never figure out why GM used MacBeth lights when I can take nearly anything to Sears and they'll match the color dead on...
Maybe the technology has improved, it has been 10 years or so...
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