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Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by dream '94 Z28
From a desiger's perspective...you guys wanting to shove kid's in the back seat do realize you are the minority (and I mean MINORITY) of the market. I can't speak from experience (unforunately) but from past discussions coupes are generally 'personal' vehicles (meaning single people or couples without kids) where the driver's experience and to a lesser extent the passenger's experience in terms of style and front seat(s) enviroment (aesthetics, ergonomics, control functions) are more important that utility.

Not bithcin' at ya, just starting to hate the 'why didn't they or won't they or couldn't they build it like this' talk in some of these threads.
No. Coupes are in the minority for this reason. Not people who would buy coupes if they were more functional. You have it backwards.
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dream '94 Z28
From a desiger's perspective...you guys wanting to shove kid's in the back seat do realize you are the minority (and I mean MINORITY) of the market. I can't speak from experience (unforunately) but from past discussions coupes are generally 'personal' vehicles (meaning single people or couples without kids) where the driver's experience and to a lesser extent the passenger's experience in terms of style and front seat(s) enviroment (aesthetics, ergonomics, control functions) are more important that utility.

Not bithcin' at ya, just starting to hate the 'why didn't they or won't they or couldn't they build it like this' talk in some of these threads.
Some people think a GTO isn't a real GTO without fake hoodscoops. I think a GTO isn't a real GTO unless it can seat three people in the back seat.

Again: GTO is not a Camaro.
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by falchulk
No. Coupes are in the minority for this reason. Not people who would buy coupes if they were more functional. You have it backwards.

Oh yeah? I guess you know more than years of market research that I"ve read about and have talked to people about.....
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by dream '94 Z28
From a desiger's perspective...you guys wanting to shove kid's in the back seat do realize you are the minority (and I mean MINORITY) of the market. .
That very well could be. I know that when my son was born, all three of my Corvettes went bye bye. I didn't want to graduate to a sedan, so my couple of f-bodies with a small back seat filled the bill. I did end up getting an Impala SS after a bit, but a year later I traded it for a much needed Crew Cab Dually.
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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Oh yeah? I guess you know more than years of market research that I"ve read about and have talked to people about.....
Are you the VP of marketing at GM? You sure do sound like it. Regardless of what you have heard, use common sense. Make a car less of a hassle and open up the market to familys can be a bad thing how? The people that would buy the coupe for what it is will buy it anyway. Everything you gain is just gravy.
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by falchulk
Are you the VP of marketing at GM? You sure do sound like it. Regardless of what you have heard, use common sense. Make a car less of a hassle and open up the market to familys can be a bad thing how? The people that would buy the coupe for what it is will buy it anyway. Everything you gain is just gravy.
No more an expert of GM marketing that you are appearently. I've got 6+ years of design and research to stand on. What are you bringin' to the table (might be why it sounds like I know a little about what I'm talkin' about )?

Common sense: a car that's less of a hassle and open to families = sedans, minivans, SUVs and wagons. Cars that place style over conveience for people without kids = coupe. Percentage of the market who wants to put kids in the backseat of a coupe on a semi regular basis = very small and appearently the return on the investment isn't there..otherwise the cuope market wouldn't be so small, would it?
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dream '94 Z28
No more an expert of GM marketing that you are appearently. I've got 6+ years of design and research to stand on. What are you bringin' to the table (might be why it sounds like I know a little about what I'm talkin' about )?

Common sense: a car that's less of a hassle and open to families = sedans, minivans, SUVs and wagons. Cars that place style over conveience for people without kids = coupe. Percentage of the market who wants to put kids in the backseat of a coupe on a semi regular basis = very small and appearently the return on the investment isn't there..otherwise the cuope market wouldn't be so small, would it?
then explain 3/4 door coupes( RX-8,ion etc)?
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:32 PM
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I'm with Jason on this one.

Up here in Yooperland and Northern Wisconsin, you don't dare have a RWD

For here in my neck of the woods, it's not so much a matter of traction when you are rolling as it is to get moving (deep snow), and this is where FWD/4x4/AWD is king in terms of real world useage in winter.
Let me be the fellow Wisconsinite that disagrees with you

Give me RWD without performance tires any winter!

RWD is better for someone who knows how to drive for the same reasons it's better for performance. Control.

I will agree that FWD does get you going better from a stop. I'm not so concerned about that though, if I can't get going I can't wreck. Losing control at speed is a more serious issue for me. The RWD still does fine at getting the vehicle moving it just doesn't give the illusion of control that FWD might... this isn't a bad thing.

For most people, FWD is probably better though.

Don't even compare 4x4 with FWD
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 08:57 PM
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With all due respect, there is a very good way to regain control with FWD when it begins sliding.

GET OFF THE GAS. Yes, its that easy. I've tried it. When I've messed with my GP for fun, and get it out of shape, I GET OFF THE GAS. That's all
Old Jul 20, 2005 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 97z28/m6
then explain 3/4 door coupes( RX-8,ion etc)?
Both are still 2 small seaters in the rear. The RX-8 is a niche car which means they expected low volume and could throw out a wild idea like that (and the rear doors don't sell the car) and the Saturn has it's own cult like following.

Rear 3/4 doors could be popular on most coupes, all I'm saying is most people who make hauling things in the back seat on a semi regular basis one of their top priorities will look to a sedan becuase they won't accept the short comings of a coupe configurations.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by dream '94 Z28
No more an expert of GM marketing that you are appearently. I've got 6+ years of design and research to stand on. What are you bringin' to the table (might be why it sounds like I know a little about what I'm talkin' about )?

Common sense: a car that's less of a hassle and open to families = sedans, minivans, SUVs and wagons. Cars that place style over conveience for people without kids = coupe. Percentage of the market who wants to put kids in the backseat of a coupe on a semi regular basis = very small and appearently the return on the investment isn't there..otherwise the cuope market wouldn't be so small, would it?
I meant that GM thinks like you. They think research on current models dictates the futire. Its inovative to slap a 3rd seat in the back in this segment. People dont know they want it until they can have it.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 04:32 PM
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Oddly, I agree with falchulk. Both the GTO, and even the G6 coupe should have a 3rd spot in the back. There's no reason not to. Headroom is limited in the rear of the G6 coupe as I said before, but that still shouldn't stop them from throwing a 3rd seatbelt back there.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by falchulk
I meant that GM thinks like you. They think research on current models dictates the futire. Its inovative to slap a 3rd seat in the back in this segment. People dont know they want it until they can have it.
I agree complete on the last point.

Regarding the third seat, I'm willing to bet that in coupe market families and poeple back there are so much the minority it isn't worth the investment at the end of the day. Is it innovative, yes, but...there's probably better areas to focus your energy.
Old Jul 21, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jason E
Oddly, I agree with falchulk. Both the GTO, and even the G6 coupe should have a 3rd spot in the back. There's no reason not to. Headroom is limited in the rear of the G6 coupe as I said before, but that still shouldn't stop them from throwing a 3rd seatbelt back there.
Agree.
Old Jul 22, 2005 | 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason E
Oddly, I agree with falchulk. Both the GTO, and even the G6 coupe should have a 3rd spot in the back. There's no reason not to. Headroom is limited in the rear of the G6 coupe as I said before, but that still shouldn't stop them from throwing a 3rd seatbelt back there.
Cmon Jason, it's not like we dont agree all the time



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