Joe--

I think what he was getting at was that you asked for a "Pontiac to have a RWD, LS2, M6 coupe." There is such a thing--the GTO.

 

OK..... Megabyte Ninja??

Perhaps "bash" is the wrong word... maybe "complain/whine/bitch" that they are not covering a market that they ARE actually covering?!

This was your original post:

"G6+LS2+rwd=something to go into debt for.

Think about that one, GM."

I agree about the power seat gizmo... it's too slow. I have actually complained about it. FWIW, the 2006 GTO has a faster motor for the seat, because several people have complained about this issue.

Not so.... I just don't understand how you can complain that Pontiac isn't offering a RWD LS2 M6 coupe........ when they do. That wasn't an opinion. It was a statement.

That's great. I think it look pretty decent too.

 

Exactly... I wasn't really trying to stir the pot, just pointing out (what I thought was) the obvious...

 

Nope...... I very clearly stated a G6 with an LS2 and RWD and not a GTO with an LS2 and RWD.

"G6+LS2+rwd=something to go into debt for." was exactly how I put it. There is no "GTO" in there anywhere. In any case, it's over.

And one parting thought, I wasn't bitching or whining. That started in response to my post. Some folks take this stuff way too seriously and decide to make a big issue over a simple opinion.

 

You ask for a LS2 RWD Pontiac coupe (granted G6... even though that's not really possible... ) I point out they already have that segment covered by GTO.... you get cranky about me pointing that out... OK...

Peace Be With You.

 

That was a pretty useless exchange.

FWIW, complaining about back seat access in a GTO while owning an f-body is one of the funniest things i ever heard. 'more room' in the backseat of a GTO is the understatement of the year, an f-body makes a GTO backseat look like a 1977 B-body for christ's sake. Who cares how fast you can get in if you can't move or breathe once you're in there.

While i agree the backseat access was a little bit of a nuisance at first, in a world where everyone has gone insanely impatient, waiting 5 seconds (YES, really, count out loud, one mississippi, two mississippi...) to get in the backseat is a small price to pay for having a cushy bucket seat with a side window you can see out of and your own AC vents too. God forbid the driver start the car and let it warm up for 5 seconds while the passengers board the vehicle.

 

You guys are amazing. If somene has a dissenting opinion, the attack begins.

Here is something to try with a GTO. Remain seated in the driver's seat and have a passenger remain in the passenger seat. Now see how easily a child can get into the back seat with the fronts occupied. At least with my "outdated" and "old" f-body, my son can get in and out without me getting out of the seat. I lean foreward just a bit and he can slide right past..... all without the aid of motorized seats. Granted there isn't as much total room, but he's just a kid and there's plenty of room for him. Even funnier is that in my "really old" Buick GN, he slides out just as easy. Now there's a back seat that is really comfortable.

We already know those of you that bought GTOs love them, at least have the common courtesy to leave other's opinions alone if for whatever reason something turns them off about a product. I just don't get the lack of understanding and courtesy. most likely I'll get bar-b-qued for that one too.

And yes I agree...... this was one of the most worthless exchanges.... all because I like the idea of a G6 made RWD with an LS2. Go figure........

 

Regarding the GTO's back seat......

IF we see a next GTO, it should/needs to be a 5 passenger car. If the current one was, I'd already own one.

 

I wonder how difficult that would be to achieve when you factor in the driveshaft tunnel, and any real attempt to keep the car low to the ground for better handling and looks.

 

The Big 3 made 5-seater RWD cars for years, of course. With IRS it's even a bit easier since you don't need as much clearance for a driveshaft moving up and down. Take a look at the back seat of any Subaru for example.

 

Very true... I was just thinking more along the lines of keeping it with a modern, sporty stance... rather than something taht sits up high like the older cars.

Good point, and I think it is safe to assume that a future GTO would have IRS....

 

There seems to be enough room back there. It wouldn't necessarily need to fit 3 adults comfortably everyday......just have a third seat belt position.

 

Ya, I suppose they could get the bench seat back there with no issue, other than losing support and possibly comfort for the back seat passengers vs the current rear buckets.

I think it'd be a pretty tight fit for 3 even with a bench though.... When I go out to lunch today, I'll play closer attention to it, and see how the seat room and foot room would be in the existing car with a bench...

 

Yeah, doesn't really needs to take up lots of room, or even need to be a bench. Maybe just a 60/40 arrangement. Basicly, for me, I'd want the ability to fit 3 kids back there, a handful of times per year. Maybe not too important for alot of you guys...but for me ( and I think I'm the demographic the car is aimed at), it's a real selling point.

BTW, before anyone brings it up, GTO is NOT a Camaro...so I wouldn't expect or want any of this in a ponycar.

 

From a desiger's perspective...you guys wanting to shove kid's in the back seat do realize you are the minority (and I mean MINORITY) of the market. I can't speak from experience (unforunately) but from past discussions coupes are generally 'personal' vehicles (meaning single people or couples without kids) where the driver's experience and to a lesser extent the passenger's experience in terms of style and front seat(s) enviroment (aesthetics, ergonomics, control functions) are more important that utility.

Not bithcin' at ya, just starting to hate the 'why didn't they or won't they or couldn't they build it like this' talk in some of these threads.