Whats the deal w/ the hood scoop option? Was it going to be standard w/ scoops and a CLEAN hood as an option, or the other way around? Or is it now just coming w/ hoodscoops as the only hood available?

 

Same HP as the Cobra, but still cheaper and with overall better quality. For those that thought the Cobra was a good buy, you really can't complain about the GTOs price.

 

One thing I find irritating about this press release is how they relay the pricing information. Why not just say that the base price is $34,295............ because it is !!!! You can't buy the car without paying the gas guzzler tax unless you get the stick, and that is a $700 option.

People are going to be running around all over the internet now saying that the price on the GTO is $32,995, when it isn't.

Sorry, I just have problems with things that are not logical.

 

The Cobra had mystique and hype (well-deserved) surrounding it and that goes long ways in building a cars image up. It had a strong charector and "gotta have" (haha, coined by C&D) factor as well. The GTO lacks those things imo, but it's still a better overall value and more car than Cobra by far.

None really complained about the Cobra's price or even the price of loaded SS's and ws6 T/A's, but the GTO which is an excellent value at 32k is viewed as overpriced by some and needing incentives to sell. I find that surprising too. This is especially evident on the import boards where a 34k Cobra and EVO MR are considered best buys and the GTO boarderline rip-off. Maybe it's due to the EVO and Cobra's strong performance following. They seem to have their own dedicated buyers.

Hope the revisions for 05 helps boost sales.

 

Taxes aren't calculated into the price, because GM isn't the one charging you for it.

It'd be like going to Best Buy and complaining that the new CD you want to buy says $13.99 on the price tag, but when you go to the register, you have to pay $13.99 + tax....

You can't buy the CD without paying that tax, but it's not reflected in the stated price either.

 

The scooped hood is a no-cost option.

Personaly, Id ditch the scoops for thoes recessed grills from the sport appearance package.

 

Yes, the appearance packages are only for the Black, Red, and Silver cars.

 

Has anyone seen the curb weight of the GTO????

http://www.pontiac.com/specs/specs_c....jsp?brand=gtoGTO Specs

3,725 lbs.!!!!! This thing needs a 500 diet.

And check this disclaimer:

An Important Note about Alterations and Warranties

Installations or alterations to the original equipment vehicle (or chassis) as distributed by General Motors are not covered by the General Motors New-Vehicle Limited Warranty.
The special body company, assembler, equipment installer, or upfitter is solely responsible for warranties on the body or equipment and any alterations (or any effect of the alterations) to any of the parts, components, systems, or assemblies installed by GM. General Motors is not responsible for the safety or quality of design features, materials, or workmanship of any alterations by such suppliers.

 

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/specifications/

Uhm...you do realize that the GTO is not the Vette

 

Thats nothing new. You mean ripping apart your car will void your warranty? Thats stupid....

As for the weight...where have you been?

 

I think they should have worked really hard to get the base price to $29,995 so the car could be included in all the mag writeups of "best car under $30K" etc. etc.

Its all about exposure, I think. Many people will also shop price categories, and even if they option it up over $30K they want to start with a car that is under the psychological $30K barrier. If we had 12 fingers instead of 10 then that imaginary line would be somewhere else I guess.

 

Well, if you want to go that far then why not include sales tax from any of the 50 states and destination fees, and finance charges too.

The point about the CD price at Best Buy is valid here. The tax is an assessment levied by the Govt based on the sales price. GM's not getting that money.

 

I see a pattern here, and by here I mean on this forum.

Whatever GM produces, it has to appeal to everyone, it has to appeal to 16-year old kids, and to 60-year old seniors. Everything they offer has to be sold as totally stripped or maxed out bag of luxuries. It has to have performance to put it into 12's, have radical yet conservative styling, have 500 HP and yet be safe. And.... 18 year old high school kids working part time should be able to afford montly payments.

Another problem: every car division of GM has to go after absolutely everyone. Buick has to go after Acura, Lexus in luxury, and also have performance. Caddy - same thing. Chevy - performance. BUt also we want luxury options. Pontiac - Lexus, Acura, BMW, what not.

If GM were listening, they wouldn't produce anything or all their products would look the same and go after the same demographic. I can certainly respect the job of project managers who have to put a line somwehere and define what a product is and is not.

 

You know, I never really thought about it, but I think this is a excellent point.

I know of one comparo that specifically excluded GTO for this very reason... (can't remember which one though.)

I wonder how much effect this would have had... they ended up going sub-30k anyway after the rebates... so.... I think this is an excellent observation!

 

I think Lightning Gal's issue is that you pay the Gas Guzzler tax no matter where you are - much like you add in destination charges. States have different sales taxes, and some even have none at all. The Gas Guzzler tax is simply not the same. The fact that GM is not getting the money (or the sales tax money) probably doesn't make it any better for the person forking over the $1300.

As for the GTO being more car than the Cobra...that is a matter of opinion. I certainly could have waited for the 05 GTO. I chose not to, based on my preferences and biases. My biases will go up a lot in a couple of weeks when the KB sitting in my garage is sitting on top of my engine instead.