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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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I guess I'll rebut...

Originally posted by stangkilla1
First off, I DROVE ONE SATURDAY and tried to tear it up.
At the Auto Show in Motion? Please. You couldn't tear up a car at ASIM no how hard you tried. The courses are short and restricted to keep you from going fast. On the courses where you actually could have some fun (Hummer and 'Vette) you have an "instructor" in the car to keep you from getting silly.

Originally posted by stangkilla1
You guys seem to have only heard a couple and think you know your stuff. I've heard them all man turbo's, single- 2chamber and three chamber flowmasters, Flowteck (which are turbos!!!), Monza, Ansa, Edelbrock's, Alabama's, Borla, Corsa's (via sound bite).
Wow. You've heard a bunch of mufflers in all your years as a car enthusiast. That's really something to be proud of. You don't honestly think you're wiser than everybody else because of that, do you? By the way, it's Flowtech.

Originally posted by stangkilla1
Second WTF am I supposed to be backing up? Ok my knowledge of the internals of a crossfire are lacking, but I've driven threeo of them. The 1970 Impala was a swap (I know they did'nt come OEM duhhhh) and maybe "where you live" the motors are'nt strong or built good enough to race and drive daily. But the Ones down here are!!!!
Apparently the laws of physics are somehow different in the south since crossfire injection is all the rage. 165 horsepower is enough to rip some serious *** down there, even in a 4500 pound car!

Originally posted by stangkilla1
My lil a** 305 has enough kick to kick a SVT's **** all the way down MLK Blvd. here in Atlanta.
SVT what? Once again you're either making vague references hoping that nobody catches them or you don't really know what kind of car it was.

Originally posted by stangkilla1
3) I waited until 4100 rpm to go to second, when i did the whole car almost lost it going sideways but I got the neeeded kick in the shift
4) He was on my door (but behind my door), when I heard him trying to play catch up. I waited until 3700 rpm to go to 3rd and from there I got a huge powerband boost and held the lead for more than a 1/4 mile.
LOL! Yeah you sure know how to drive! Short shifting really makes a car so much faster! I especially love the term "powerband boost". I'm going to tell all my customers from now on to short shift 3000 RPM below redline to get a good "powerband boost".


Originally posted by stangkilla1
Just because I have a 305 does'nt mean it does'nt have the same stroke as a 350 if not quicker stroke
For once you're right, but it seems like by accident. There is no such thing as a "quick" stroke. Stroke is measured in distance, not speed. In this case the 305 and 350 share a stroke of 3.48"

Originally posted by stangkilla1
My trans. Is a B&M 350 Turbo
Actually, we automotive enthusiasts refer to it as a Turbo 350, not a 350 Turbo.

Originally posted by stangkilla1
Aside from that, I've been being real cool about not goin off and cussin some of you bi***'s out. This is the forums If you want to get dirty go to my G-books (either one) and see what the f**K I really write. Cause I'm seeing some comments that deserve a good slap in ya Mo****n mouth. I'm real, realer than some of you broke haters with dreams of being cool someday!!!!
Typical non-sequitor. Call people names when they're better informed than you in hopes of drawing them away from the real discussion that you can't back up...

Originally posted by stangkilla1
I really hate to have say this but "your" kind freezes up when we come around (just being real).
Wow. You really think this is racially motivated? It's not. I don't give a rat's *** what you look like or where you're from. What I do care about is that you don't know as much about cars as you think you do, but you think you're Billy Badass Car Tuner. You're not, and all these other people on your case see it. Don't try to sway the argument by bringing race into it.

Originally posted by stangkilla1
Yall should'nt have started this, cause when I get mad i start tellin the truth about people.
What "truth" are you going to tell about people you don't know? Do you really think people are scared that you're going to call them more names? Big deal. Bring it on.

And since you're inevitably going to question my credibility you need to know that I build high performance street cars and race cars for a living. I can tell a car bullsh!tter when I hear one, and while you may know what badge is on a car I have a hard time believing you know much more beyond that. I could care less if you don't know the first thing about cars. I have plenty of car buddies that don't know jack about the cars they drive and modify, but at least they don't pretend to be John Force.

-Chris
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:40 AM
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I don't like the current GTO's styling either but thats what direction GM wants pontiac to go in...
If you look at the original GTO ,yes it was basically a optioned lemans..
For a little more than a lemans..
Peopler are saying that the current GTO borrows from the styling from the grand prix or whatever just like the GTO derived from the lemans ..except the GTO is at least $10,000 grand more than a grand prix...if it was following in the original GTO's footsteps it would look close to another model but only be slightly more expensive with the more powerful motor/drivetrain...
Thats what a true muscle car is and that how pontiac started the whole genre with the original GTO....
But GM wants pontiac to go upscale and take on BMW and such so you'll get blander styling with good power and good interior...
The TRANS-AM days are gone...The grand Am is being renamed G3....They are,in my views anyway, thumbing there noses at the average working man and going after your upper middle class$50,000-70,000 year income yuppie,instead of the guy that goes to the track for the weekend hangs out with his buddies and puts back a few cold ones after a good day of racing....NOT to say that people making a certain amount of money do certain things ..but I just don't see your average BMW driver at the track making adjustments to try to pick up 1 or 2 tenths...
And they stick the GTO namebadge on there to get some of these middle aged guys in there midlife crisis to run out and try to recapture some of there childhood glory....thinking that the GTO is back from the grave or whatever...just to findout its a rebadged platform thats been running in another country for years..Lokk at how the T/A progressed over the years...the GTO would not look like this if it had stayed in production...I'm not saying its a POS because of its looks....I don't like GM cashing in on a very well respected name to try to sell a car to a group of people that would never have appreciated the original GTO to begin with.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:52 AM
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BTW,cross fire injection never came on a 350....
Stangkilla I hope your just having fun and just trying to get people worked up..or your just mildly retarded...i would accept either ...
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 07:24 AM
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Originally posted by DON 305T/A
BTW,cross fire injection never came on a 350....
Stangkilla I hope your just having fun and just trying to get people worked up..or your just mildly retarded...i would accept either ...
Corvettes had Crossfire injection on 350's in 1982 and 1984 (there was no 1983 car sold to the public).

Where do you guys get this stuff???
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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Dont know why I came back. Matbe I thought some real racers would finally show up. But I keep my promises, here's the link

http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/memberpage/239349/5

Now shut up!!!!

Maybe I was more than a lil angry on my last post, but hey I get that racist bull on my pages every other day. So you guys can stay here and keep arguing among yourselves. The thread was about the new GTO and how I felt it can compete in the American market. But you guys turned it into some real bull. If you really want to back up any racing or other allegations I made. Hit me (404)432-6406 I dont ususally give out my cell no. but I dont play that "talk loud on a pc", you got something to say. CALL ME!!!! BUT IF YOUR NOT READY, DONT CALL. Truthfully if I race anyone out of my class, I'll pull out the Honda (yea ya did'nt know about that did you?) 1999 Accord V-tec 6, and I'll put money up. it's the daily driver, but for the first year of ownership it was tearin up the Atlanta streets and highways. With no losses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HMMMM three sports cars that two are running under 13's. the 2000 camaro is low 15's. compared to some chumps with no web pages. To everybody else that does'nt really care about the drama (me included) I'm sorry but if you know me then you know I dont like people talkin trash, hiding behing PC's. It's soooo lame and shows no driving skills or experience. It just shows they've been on the net and know how to use a search engine (not a real engine).
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Chrisbequick
I guess I'll rebut...



At the Auto Show in Motion? Please. You couldn't tear up a car at ASIM no how hard you tried. The courses are short and restricted to keep you from going fast. On the courses where you actually could have some fun (Hummer and 'Vette) you have an "instructor" in the car to keep you from getting silly.



Wow. You've heard a bunch of mufflers in all your years as a car enthusiast. That's really something to be proud of. You don't honestly think you're wiser than everybody else because of that, do you? By the way, it's Flowtech.



Apparently the laws of physics are somehow different in the south since crossfire injection is all the rage. 165 horsepower is enough to rip some serious *** down there, even in a 4500 pound car!



SVT what? Once again you're either making vague references hoping that nobody catches them or you don't really know what kind of car it was.



LOL! Yeah you sure know how to drive! Short shifting really makes a car so much faster! I especially love the term "powerband boost". I'm going to tell all my customers from now on to short shift 3000 RPM below redline to get a good "powerband boost".




For once you're right, but it seems like by accident. There is no such thing as a "quick" stroke. Stroke is measured in distance, not speed. In this case the 305 and 350 share a stroke of 3.48"



Actually, we automotive enthusiasts refer to it as a Turbo 350, not a 350 Turbo.



Typical non-sequitor. Call people names when they're better informed than you in hopes of drawing them away from the real discussion that you can't back up...



Wow. You really think this is racially motivated? It's not. I don't give a rat's *** what you look like or where you're from. What I do care about is that you don't know as much about cars as you think you do, but you think you're Billy Badass Car Tuner. You're not, and all these other people on your case see it. Don't try to sway the argument by bringing race into it.



What "truth" are you going to tell about people you don't know? Do you really think people are scared that you're going to call them more names? Big deal. Bring it on.

And since you're inevitably going to question my credibility you need to know that I build high performance street cars and race cars for a living. I can tell a car bullsh!tter when I hear one, and while you may know what badge is on a car I have a hard time believing you know much more beyond that. I could care less if you don't know the first thing about cars. I have plenty of car buddies that don't know jack about the cars they drive and modify, but at least they don't pretend to be John Force.

-Chris

Funny you should say that!!!! The guy who built my 305 is the same guy who helps John Force on his truck!!!!!!! And to shut you up even more, Johns Truck is parked 10 minutes away from me and the trailer is sittin behind the shop. Do you know Rodney? If you dont, then you dont know your sh** like you think you do. Do you want me to give you his home phone number? The shop is on Cascade Rd. here in Atlanta across from the Home Depot (5 min from me)

And yes A SVT Mustang!!!!! It's not my fault he could'nt catch his gearing right, or that I know when to ratchet up. I spent countless hours launching my car and finding the right shift points (in an automatic!!!). So you can not believe what you want, but when you want to stop talking and race. Call me at the number above. I dont pretend to mbe anything other than a street racer. the years of experience i have are on the streets. Not on a track with all kind of safety features, I got my skills the hard way (I earned it). I dont even know you but do you see me questioning you about your skill? NO!!! Yhat leads me to believe you cant get as many races as me or are just plain hating (you take your pick). Like I said whenever you wanna race CALL ME !!!!!!!!!!


Coincidently the guy i was talking about, Rodney owes me a motor, (since your on John's d**k so hard). And stole a $10,000 motor that was 6 months in building because my buddy got killed the same week the motor was finished. yea the station wagon with the 550hp 350 (crate) w/ 150 shot NX sytem was stolen from a dead man!!! So keep looking up to them, cause I've already handled Rodney (never bring people to your house if ya gonna screw them) and when he goes to Barnett he watches his back!!!! I cant stress this enough, call if you want to race. If you want to argue about something you know nothing about, stay ya Bi*** *** at home. Im grown, are you?
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by stangkilla1
Truthfully if I race anyone out of my class, I'll pull out the Honda (yea ya did'nt know about that did you?) 1999 Accord V-tec 6, and I'll put money up. it's the daily driver, but for the first year of ownership it was tearin up the Atlanta streets and highways. With no losses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HMMMM three sports cars that two are running under 13's. the 2000 camaro is low 15's.
Horsesh!t. That V6 automatic Honda doesn't run 12s and neither does that 305 car. If you've never lost in a high 15 second car then you haven't actually raced anything. You're making yourself look more and more like an idiot every time you post. Why do you think not a single person is backing you?

Give it up. You think you're cooler than you are.

BTW- an Accord is NOT a sports car.

-Chris

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Old Apr 2, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by stangkilla1
Funny you should say that!!!! The guy who built my 305 is the same guy who helps John Force on his truck!!!!!!! And to shut you up even more, Johns Truck is parked 10 minutes away from me and the trailer is sittin behind the shop. Do you know Rodney? If you dont, then you dont know your sh** like you think you do. Do you want me to give you his home phone number? The shop is on Cascade Rd. here in Atlanta across from the Home Depot (5 min from me)
LOL! You sure are an idiot. Just because I don't know everybody in the industry means I can't spot a bullsh!tter like you a mile away? Riggghhhttt.... I don't give a rats *** who you think you're best friends with. It doesn't change the fact that you don't know what the hell you're talking about. If you actually knew anybody that was into cars you would realize how ridiculous your little phrases sound sound. Remember, a wise man can play a fool, put a fool can never play the wise man. Quit trying to pretend to be a wise man.

Originally posted by stangkilla1
So you can not believe what you want, but when you want to stop talking and race. Call me at the number above. I dont pretend to mbe anything other than a street racer. the years of experience i have are on the streets. Not on a track with all kind of safety features, I got my skills the hard way (I earned it). I dont even know you but do you see me questioning you about your skill? NO!!! Yhat leads me to believe you cant get as many races as me or are just plain hating (you take your pick). Like I said whenever you wanna race CALL ME !!!!!!!!!!
Oh yeah. I've got your number. I'll be down there for NOPI and I'll give you a call. I'll run you heads up anywhere you want. And I'll even let you drive your little Honda if you want.

Originally posted by stangkilla1
Coincidently the guy i was talking about, Rodney owes me a motor, (since your on John's d**k so hard).

LOL! You dumb bastard. I said you were acting like John Force. I didn't say anything about the guy. Read English much? Go ahead and throw some nonexistant motor into whatever car it is that you want to run me with. But if you "ratchet" the gears so good why would you want to replace that "badass, never beaten" 305 of yours?


Originally posted by stangkilla1
And stole a $10,000 motor that was 6 months in building because my buddy got killed the same week the motor was finished. yea the station wagon with the 550hp 350 (crate) w/ 150 shot NX sytem was stolen from a dead man!!! So keep looking up to them, cause I've already handled Rodney (never bring people to your house if ya gonna screw them) and when he goes to Barnett he watches his back!!!!
You mind putting that into a language that I can understand? I don't speak gibberish.


Originally posted by stangkilla1
I cant stress this enough, call if you want to race. If you want to argue about something you know nothing about, stay ya Bi*** *** at home. Im grown, are you?
I can't stress this enough. You have no idea what you're talking about. I build these cars for a living. You go on message boards and tell people your 15 second Accord is invincable. And make all the threats you want since you think you're so bad. You just better bring your Bi*** *** out when I come down.

-Chris
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally posted by stangkilla1
Dont know why I came back. Matbe I thought some real racers would finally show up. But I keep my promises, here's the link

http://camaroz28.cardomain.com/memberpage/239349/5

Now shut up!!!!

Maybe I was more than a lil angry on my last post, but hey I get that racist bull on my pages every other day. So you guys can stay here and keep arguing among yourselves. The thread was about the new GTO and how I felt it can compete in the American market. But you guys turned it into some real bull. If you really want to back up any racing or other allegations I made. Hit me (404)432-6406 I dont ususally give out my cell no. but I dont play that "talk loud on a pc", you got something to say. CALL ME!!!! BUT IF YOUR NOT READY, DONT CALL. Truthfully if I race anyone out of my class, I'll pull out the Honda (yea ya did'nt know about that did you?) 1999 Accord V-tec 6, and I'll put money up. it's the daily driver, but for the first year of ownership it was tearin up the Atlanta streets and highways. With no losses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HMMMM three sports cars that two are running under 13's. the 2000 camaro is low 15's. compared to some chumps with no web pages. To everybody else that does'nt really care about the drama (me included) I'm sorry but if you know me then you know I dont like people talkin trash, hiding behing PC's. It's soooo lame and shows no driving skills or experience. It just shows they've been on the net and know how to use a search engine (not a real engine).
actually, ill call you out right now. you are lying, your cars (yes all three of them) are slow as hell and none of them run faster than a mid 15. until you prove otherwise you are full of sh*t.

and one more time. YOUR CARS ARE SLOW. if you are ever around the Kansas City Mo area, PM me and we will line them up. ill race all 3 of your cars. if by some freak of nature i lose, ill post right back here for all to see. i doubt it happens.

4 bolt main 305. ahahahahahahaha thats hilarious dude.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 01:41 PM
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The 5th gen board has hit a new low. The AAG forum of LS1.com isn't even as immature as this thread is going.

This forum has a great reputation for intelligent discussion of future vehicles without resorting to any ad hominem arguments. Please either take this somewhere else, stangkilla1. If you wish to post here, please post a mature argument by citing information, followed by analysis of those facts. Emotion, illogical statements, lying, and cursing out other members diminishes the strength of your argument severely.

Have a nice day
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by Burmite
The 5th gen board has hit a new low. The AAG forum of LS1.com isn't even as immature as this thread is going.

This forum has a great reputation for intelligent discussion of future vehicles without resorting to any ad hominem arguments. Please either take this somewhere else, stangkilla1. If you wish to post here, please post a mature argument by citing information, followed by analysis of those facts. Emotion, illogical statements, lying, and cursing out other members diminishes the strength of your argument severely.

Have a nice day
save the trash talk for the lounge. seriously, unbelievable how people will act sometimes
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