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Camaro 93-97 to 98-02 front-end conversion tutoral

Old 10-04-2006, 01:24 AM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

i am stuck figuring what the bumper support looks like, i have everything except i cant figure out what to bolt the front bumper too and how it holds up to touch the hood. please any help pics would be good, do you have to pull one off of a new style camaro
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Old 10-04-2006, 08:30 PM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

I'm looking around to get a trans am probably around the year 1995 or so. The front end swap on the camaro looks fairly eas with this tutorial, but would it be the same stuff to change the front end of a trans am? Would I need different brackets, headlights, etc.? If anyone has any info..i would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:52 PM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

i did it on a 94 ta went to a ls1 ta and it wasnt hard did it in 1hr.
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Old 10-09-2006, 02:57 PM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

Do you realy need bracket #3????????
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:20 AM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

yes you need all of them
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Old 10-10-2006, 12:25 AM
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sorry for the huge pictures Aiight people I'm very sorry for the delay. .there has been a lot of things going on in my life. . from tragedies to relocating to Atlanta, GA ( happy to bear near a summit racing STORE ) (any f-body club in the area please contact me) and things have been hectic with the car.. well as far as keeping it running.... Through the summer I've been through 2 motor and over $3000 in labor.. my 1st motor i put $1k into replacing the oil pan , tune up ..ect..ect..ect and THEN I blew head gaskets after i paid over $1200 to have that fix i found out my bottom end was gone as well. . so i had to replace i the whole motor.. other then that i added my slp loud moth exhaust. .some gears and a few other small things to the motor that I'm going to get into detail with. .I
you will have to find out on the street lol.. but for the most part the car is finally coming together. . . so here are a few pictures to show my progress and where i am now. . .

This is a picture of the car before i really touched it. . .




This is the car after the front end conversion was done..



this is the car being worked on. .






this is the ultra-Z hood i bought on e-bay for $150

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Old 10-10-2006, 12:26 AM
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this is a picture of the car in the paint show getting the body work done on it.. on the pictures you can see the Vizage body kit i go0t on e-bay used for $300..







and this is what it looks like now that's its ready for paint. . .look ma no handles!!





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Old 10-16-2006, 01:46 PM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

Hey all,

I recently have been forced to consider this swap. A week ago some lame
A$$ hit my 93 Camaro Z28 while it was parked and took off. I have liked the
later 4th Gen front end better, and since I need to swap parts anyway .. why
not upgrade? This tutorial is quite helpful, but I have a few questions.

1. Is the reinforcement crashbar and honeycomb the same? I notice that
they have been removed in one picture, did they have to come off?

2. The underside pieces, air duct, and plastic parts that are flat to the
ground, are these the same between the two styles?

I am trying to figure out the bare mininum that I have to buy to make the
swap. I have received quotes from $1250 to $3000 dollars for the front clip
parts. If I can reuse most of the underparts, thats good for me. I found
that the inner part of the fender (slash guard) is the same between years.

If I understand your list, parts required are ONLY:

1. Front bumper cover
2. Front bumper (support) (is this the honeycomb/crashbar deal?)
3. headlights
4. R&L fenders
5. hood
6. fog lights
7. 3 sets of brackets shown in step 6
8. fog lights

Thank you for your help, I dont want to end up with double parts, unless I
can find a whole front clip for sale. Camaro parts are not that common out
here in California (Honda/Toyota land ). Are any of the aftermarket parts
worth a darn? I have heard of fitment problems. I am new to this forum, but
on the Impala SS site people use Dal for NEW GM parts, is he know over here?
I figure I can get the brackets from Dal, and GOOD aftermarket parts. Anyone
can point me in the right direction for QUALITY fenders/bumpers?

http://www.9c1.com/parts/dal.htm





Thanks for the help!!

Edit : FYI, I have 2002 SS wheels, the fronts you might notice are '93 Z28
wheels, the reason is my wife slammed into a curb the week before the car
was hit on the street. The passenger side suspension is bent. I got both
right and left replacements over the weekend. The SS wheel wasnt bent,
but I need a new tire. Poor car has had a couple rough weeks. The pass
side frnt fender hasnt lined up since a SUV/truck hit that side 2 years ago.
Thats how I got the ramair hood, didnt have enough left over of the fender.
This recent hit was obviously a SUV/truck also.

Tom

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Old 10-16-2006, 11:26 PM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

ok you are going to need


the front bumper. .( the honeycone and metel peice the goes under you bumper cover)
a front bumper cover
both fenders
a hood
both head lights
all 3 brackets shown above
and the plastic to go on the bottom

but you look like you have about $400 in damage there buddy
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Old 10-17-2006, 01:26 PM
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I was looking at my car 96 maro and I have those brackets on the car already the l shaped ones that bolt the fender to the bumper cover.. Yet you must remember I have the front clip on but still no headlights lol damn things are impossiable to find unless you want to pay a boat load of money for them.. but so far i have only bought head light mounts no other brackets.
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400? I wish that was true. Nah, the drivers fender and the nose need to be
replaced, just the nose was quoted at a several hundred. I got a quote to
paint the ramair hood, and that was over $300! As I mentioned the passenger
fender has fine cracks and needs work or replacement too. So other then the
hood, I am looking at all new skins. The headlight bracket was also cracked. I
figure that if I am going to go through the trouble of pulling off everything, I
might was well put the front end on that I like better.

Thanks to your tutorial, its more clear whats involved, & what is needed to
finish the job. Has anyone found any quality aftermarket fenders, hoods, and
noses? I might have sourced the underparts to mount everything, so I could
order the skin to hang on it. I just dont want to buy crap. I think that the
input on quality sources would be beneficial to this thread. I also found some
nice halo lights on Ebay that mimic the dark headlights on the early frontend.
They have a halo between the high and low beam, with a black background :



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Old 10-17-2006, 08:21 PM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

ya those lights are nice man im getting a pair but as far as bumper and fenders us parts on ebay has them i got everything shipped to me for 180 everything was primers but the bumper which only took about 10 min to do i like the parts and they fit good and the paint went on super smooth with no problems the parts are abs plastic but thats what stock was anyway if you want my i can hit u up with some pics of them
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Old 10-18-2006, 11:53 AM
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400? I wish that was true. Nah, the drivers fender and the nose need to be
replaced, just the nose was quoted at a several hundred. I got a quote to
paint the ramair hood, and that was over $300! As I mentioned the passenger
fender has fine cracks and needs work or replacement too. So other then the
hood, I am looking at all new skins. The headlight bracket was also cracked. I
figure that if I am going to go through the trouble of pulling off everything, I
might was well put the front end on that I like better.

Thanks to your tutorial, its more clear whats involved, & what is needed to
finish the job. Has anyone found any quality aftermarket fenders, hoods, and
noses? I might have sourced the underparts to mount everything, so I could
order the skin to hang on it. I just dont want to buy crap. I think that the
input on quality sources would be beneficial to this thread. I also found some
nice halo lights on Ebay that mimic the dark headlights on the early frontend.
They have a halo between the high and low beam, with a black background :



Tom
well i say sell your hood and use that money towards your new front clip. . . fall/winter is the best time to get started... so you will be ready by summer. .

sorry to say but you guys are getting riped off ... in Detroit you can get parts and labor cheap. . . because every body and there mother knows how to work on cars. . and auto shops have to compete...

as far as body parts there is a place called Trojan auto connection in warren Michigan ( http://www.trojanauto.com/) they have GOOD fenders for around $50 *each* a front bumper covers for about $125 and a hood for about $175.00 check them out. .
on my pictures if you see a dark fender thats the one i got from them... there are also places on ebay where you can order the part painted already. .that might be your best bet if you still have a stock color in decent condition. . or try a junk yard and see if you can get a donor front end. . if you take a front clip off you will know how to put one on . . .

i have the black halo's the feel like they are good quality i have not tried them yet because my car is still in the shop. . .

on my pictures if you see a dark fender thats the one i got from them
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Old 10-18-2006, 04:28 PM
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What vendor did you get the dark halo lights from? Was the service good, &
shipped in a timely manner? Thank you for your help! Shipping would kill me
from Michigan, and yes I KNOW we get ripped off in California. Trust me.
I MIGHT have a used front clip lined up for "around" $1000. We will see.

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Old 10-18-2006, 04:41 PM
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Re: Finally a 93-97 to 98-2002 front-end conversion tutoral

same guy you got that pick from and the whole front clip new from us auto parts 180 even to you
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