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Old 11-18-2007, 09:00 PM
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What compressioin to shoot for? Also Piston/Ring question

Ive got my stroker tore down for some Splayed caps and some more minor stuff. I bought the motor already built and the guy went with a dished SRP Piston. We done the match and cc ing everything we came up with around 10.8:1 compression ratio. What is the ideal to run? Must be on pump gas and planning on a healthy shot on top of it. I talked to a guy that is in the same boat and he is shooting for about 12.5:1.
Also who makes the best affordable piston for spray? im thinking Ross or even Wisco. Also planning on the Sealed Power Hellfire ring( I think thats who makes them) Thanks fellas I appreciate all your help
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Old 11-18-2007, 09:46 PM
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You need to get the dynamic compression ratio as close as possible to the limit for pump gas. Just calculating the static compression ratio will not tell you much. If your solid roller is a big cam, you probably are starting with too low an SCR, but without having the cam specs and making the full calculation, you will never know.

And to make sure we understand.... are you planning to run the "healthy shot" on pump gas as well?
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How much nitrous you going to run?

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How much nitrous you going to run?

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Plannig on a 300 or 350 shot, May up ut more later when I see what the car will do. As far as the rest of the bottom end I will be running eagle H beams, eagle 4340 crank, and Oliver 4 bolt splayed caps. Also going to Pour the bottom of the block.
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Old 11-22-2007, 10:25 AM
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Yeh 12 to1 , I would use a dedicated cell for the N20 and use 116 octane in it.

Call Probe for the pistons, nice stuff.


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116 in the Nitrous fuel cell? how much do a set of Probe pistons run? So sounds like 12.1` it is. What about rings?
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Originally Posted by walt355
116 in the Nitrous fuel cell? how much do a set of Probe pistons run? So sounds like 12.1` it is. What about rings?
If I was gonna spray that big a shot I would use Speed Pro Hellfire rings.


The race fuel in the cell is just good insurance.

As far as Probe pistons, depends on what ya buy. Their prices are around $500 for a nice set.


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350 is a big hit of gas.......make sure your piston manufacturer knows exactly what you are doing..........

Sure you can handle a 350?
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350 is a big hit of gas.......make sure your piston manufacturer knows exactly what you are doing..........

Sure you can handle a 350?
Well, I hope to make it work
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Well, I hope to make it work
don't put it in the wall
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Originally Posted by walt355
116 in the Nitrous fuel cell? how much do a set of Probe pistons run? So sounds like 12.1` it is. What about rings?

If you like I can get ya prices as I am a warehouse distributor for Probe Industries and it will be a good price. I would go with Total Seal on the rings. Which I can also get ya.

That 12-1 is cam dependent. Everybody is just guessing at the static compression with no cam spects to go on.
People just shoot out numbers without knowing S*it about your set up.

Must be one of "It's his engine" things.
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If you like I can get ya prices as I am a warehouse distributor for Probe Industries and it will be a good price. I would go with Total Seal on the rings. Which I can also get ya.

That 12-1 is cam dependent. Everybody is just guessing at the static compression with no cam spects to go on.
People just shoot out numbers without knowing S*it about your set up.

Must be one of "It's his engine" things.
Yeah if you dont care to get some prices taht would be good. So in other words I need to figure out a cam before I find a set of pistons?
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Yeah if you dont care to get some prices taht would be good. So in other words I need to figure out a cam before I find a set of pistons?
Correct if you are figuring to run pump gas and make the most out of your build.
Call some of the cam makers and get a recommendation from them on cam then get an online and find a DCR calaculator and do the math.
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