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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 12:46 AM
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What are all the theories behind performace...

I know the basic, Fuel+Spark+Air but like...all of the how air flows, how exhaust flows, blah blah blah. Where can I learn all of this? I'm really trying to boost my knowledge on performance right now, it's really cool! And addictive....Thanks!

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:03 AM
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Amazon.com has great selection and engine specific... I started there... then here
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:27 AM
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Any specific books you might suggest?
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 03:12 AM
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David Vizzards books are a great place to start on this. Things are alot more that what some of his books state, but they are really the only good thing out there that's not over anyones head.

Car mags like Hot Rod, Pop Hot Rodding and Car Craft with their technical articles are a great place too.

If you are young enough, places like School of Automotive Machinests in Houston (S.A.M.) is a good place to go if you want a job doing this for a living. But like anything it's only worth what you take out of it there.

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 05:06 AM
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One of my all-time favourite books on the subject is, "Scientific Design Of Exhaust And Intake Systems", by Phillip H. Smith and John C. Morrison (Bentley Publishers, ISBN 0-8376-0309-9). This book was first published in 1962, but the information is still relevant for the most part. Great book for learning basic theory of intake and exhaust flow. Check with Amazon.com to see if the book is still available or call Bentley Pub. at 1-800-423-4595.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 07:35 AM
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One of my all-time favourite books on the subject is, "Scientific Design Of Exhaust And Intake Systems", by Phillip H. Smith and John C. Morrison (Bentley Publishers, ISBN 0-8376-0309-9). This book was first published in 1962, but the information is still relevant for the most part. Great book for learning basic theory of intake and exhaust flow. Check with Amazon.com to see if the book is still available or call Bentley Pub. at 1-800-423-4595.
Yes, it's also available at Barnes & Noble. Good read, especially if you like Brit. I was in college when it was first published, just by Smith. I enjoyed it then, and more so now. The basics don't change much, do they?
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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I second Mr. Bauer's recommendation of the Vizard books. Well written basic info backed up by testing. That guy must spend a lot of time on the dyno!

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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Got that exhaust and intake systems book on my list! Thanks for all the others! I'm looking into some of Vizzard's books right now also. Anyone else have any to add? I'd also be interested in some chassis science reading and stuff like that. Keep em coming!

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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by KwikistZ
Got that exhaust and intake systems book on my list! Thanks for all the others! I'm looking into some of Vizzard's books right now also. Anyone else have any to add? I'd also be interested in some chassis science reading and stuff like that. Keep em coming!

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A good, fairly basic chassis book is Herb Adams' Chassis Engineering. Herb is a very practical, smart engineer who developed the original Trans AM while he was at Pontiac in the 60s. This book covers a lot of good stuff.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg...56851?v=glance
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 08:53 PM
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Charles F Taylors internal combustion engine in theory and practice came very highly reccomended to me. I just picked it up. Looks pretty good OLDSSTOKER might agree with this one as we had 7 or 8 copies of it in our library dating back to well uhh- a long time ago
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 10:39 PM
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The Taylor books mentioned are pretty good sources of engine related engineering info and if you have some engineering background you might get something out of them... but there are better books out there to help you get the basics down. Corky Bell's books Maximum boost and Supercharged cover engine theory in a comprehensive manner besides getting into forced induction. The Vizard books are all good, try looking for the three books in the Power Pro series written by him about modifying the small block chevy. I think the short block book is kind of hard to find though. Rick Voegelin's books are all good especially the one about engine blueprinting. Basically search amazon.com and you can find tons of books on these subjects. And if you are really serious about this stuff then look into the School of Automotive Machinists. I am graduating from there in a few months and already have a position as the foreman of a new performance shop opening up here in Houston in a few weeks. I learned more there than I even thought there was to know about engines. But it really does depend on you and how much you want to know because you will only get out of it what you put into it. Learn all that you can and talk to anyone you can that actually races competitively and will talk to you and try to avoid listening to too many of the internet experts that claim to be experts and have only built one or two engines and have never even been around a flow bench or an engine dyno. This is a great career or hobby and can be very rewarding as well as agrivating. Good luck.
Old Oct 30, 2003 | 11:48 PM
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About that school. Is that the one in Ohio or whatever? And also, how long is the class? I'm out here in California and don't really wanna move out of the state, or outta daddy's house. Are there any accredited schools out here you know of? I would LOVE to get into one, but I was looking into UTI, and it blows....

Anyways, any help, helps!

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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 02:37 AM
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 09:51 AM
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Yeah, Taylor "wrote the book", but I'd stay away from that until you want to get deeply into IC theory. It's not an easy read. While they gather dust on library shelves (and my own bookshelf) , I'd be interested to know if Taylor is still used in IC engine courses at engineering schools.

Another thought: you can learn a lot from the fairly sophisticated engine simulation programs like Engine Analyzer PRO if you digest each input and output. Like a lot of things in life, the more you know the more you understand what the input and outputs mean, so the better your understanding of what's happening and how different things effect it. It's a continuing cycle.

If you are serious, the $500 or so is a bargain. Someone ought to write a "Vizard-like" book which uses EA PRO for demonstrations and a real-time "lab" with David's easy reading style.
Old Oct 31, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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