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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by tomcowle
Injuneer, I disagree still, but its YOUR board and I understand the Golden Rule.

AdioSS, I won't even comment on this.
Apparently your insulting PM to me was not enough, and you have to continue it here. Keep it up.... becasue there IS a hard-and-fast rule regarding continuing arguments with a moderator in a thread, and once again, you're over the line.

PS - It is NOT "my" board.... it belongs to Chris Frezza and Jason Debler. If you have such a big problem with me as a moderator, and feel I'm playing some kind of a "game", take it up with them.
Old Aug 14, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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i may have found an engine..i like the looks of this

http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/p..._454lsx_tt.pdf
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 02:58 AM
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Tubular K-Member / A-Arms / Coil-Over Package $1284.00 $1284.00
K-Member Material Type: 4130N Chromoly $250.00 $250.00
LSX Swap Motor Mount Pads $50.00 $50.00
4130N Chrome Moly A-arms w/ Spherical Rod Ends $200.00 $200.00
Coil-Over Kit Choice: Pro-Tour w/ 325# Springs
Color: Bright Red

Strange Engineering - Dana 60 Rear - Complete $2035.00 $2035.00Center Section: 35 Spline Detroit Trutrac $314.00 $314.00
Rear Cover: Aluminum Girdle Cover $45.50 $45.50 3.73 - Street Gear Ratio & Type: 3.73 - Street
Wheel Studs: 1/2" SAE
Pinion Yoke: Chrome Moly 1350 Pinion Yoke $51.85 $51.85

Tubular Adjustable LCA with Spherical Rod Ends $245.00 $245.00 Material Type: 4130N Chrome Moly $30.00 $30.00
Color: Bright Red

Rear LCA Relocation Brackets -Strange Rear Ends $65.00 $65.00

Rear Coil Over Kit - QA1 Double Adjustable Shocks $750.00 $750.00Spring Rate: Variable 130#-250# $30.00 $30.00


Koni "Yellow" Front Struts - Pair $499.95 $499.95

Spohn Sway Bars Set - Solid 4140 Chrome Moly $329.00 $329.00
Color: Bright Red



Aftermarket Rear - Sway Bar Installation Kit $75.00 $75.00Axle Tube Diameter: 3.00"
Color: Gloss Black



Panhard Bar - Tubular Adjustable with Spherical Rod Ends $170.00 $170.00Material Type: 4130N Chrome Moly $30.00 $30.00Color: Bright Red


LSx Motor Mounts Hardware Kit $8.95 $8.95

Tubular Sub-Frame Connectors - T-Top & Hard Top Cars $199.00 $199.00Finish: Bare Metal


SUBTOTAL: $6673.20


I Think im gonna save the B-body for later..maybe for a "cruiser" later on.
i havent included the cage yet in those prices above..i have to call them tomorrow to see if there 14 point cage will be "compatable" with there k-member..also didnt list a torque arm driveshaft or a tranny cross member yet because i have to find a shop that either sells a complete or "build you own" T-56 or tremec to handle this power.. figure another 12 or 13 thousand for the tranny, Torque arm, driveshft, crossmember, car, cage and brakes
with the subframe connectors and the cage the chassis will be plently strong.
Great thing about this is i can do 99% of the owrk myself
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tomcowle
AdioSS, I won't even comment on this.
Why not?

If you recall, when people were saying that your carb LT1 shouldn't be considered a "bolt-on" car, I was on your side.

There are several people who are more comfortable in a large fullsize car than a small ponycar.

Why are people racing F-bodies when a dedicated dragster will do it better for safer?
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 03:49 AM
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It says goals or 8 seconds...I wonder what it really runs? 11.50's?

Good luck with the project.
I'm gonna guess that it really runs quicker than your car...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF3TP0HTqpk
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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I really think you should try to find as many 1500hp LSX motors as you can for reference. I dont think your going to find many but there should be a few. Than i would try to find the best performing B Body and copy and learn as much as you can from each car/owner. Use the motor advice/info and the b body advice/info, put the two together and theres your car.

Im not trying to be an *** but i think your goals are over reaching your budget. I dont think your going to be able to do what you are intending. It is just too crazy of a build to make happen with 100k.

I know everyone keeps bashing you for a reason. Some are just plain old stupid and have no clue to what they are really talking about. They are just being ********* to be *********. The few that know what they are talking about tell you no way because in their experience your plan is not going to happen. The ones that know from experience have been down that road and are telling you its not going to happen because they speak from experience and know whats going to happen. They have tried to do something similar and failed. Not how much they read online about cars and BS.

So in all honesty i would bring your goal down or budget up. The motor alone is going to soak up 30-50k. So think about that and what you ll have left over for the rest of the entire car its not too much. I dont think you can do it, but thats just me. When you put me in the mix with everyone around here i am a nobody.Figure out who knows what they are talking about, using your best judgement to find who speaks the truth and who is wasting your time.Than you can use what you find to help you along your quest for this monster machine.

Good luck here bud, nothing bad intended.

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Old Aug 15, 2008 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by slomarao
I really think you should try to find as many 1500hp LSX motors as you can for reference. I dont think your going to find many but there should be a few. Than i would try to find the best performing B Body and copy and learn as much as you can from each car/owner. Use the motor advice/info and the b body advice/info, put the two together and theres your car.

Im not trying to be an *** but i think your goals are over reaching your budget. I dont think your going to be able to do what you are intending. It is just too crazy of a build to make happen with 100k.

I know everyone keeps bashing you for a reason. Some are just plain old stupid and have no clue to what they are really talking about. They are just being ********* to be *********. The few that know what they are talking about tell you no way because in their experience your plan is not going to happen. The ones that know from experience have been down that road and are telling you its not going to happen because they speak from experience and know whats going to happen. They have tried to do something similar and failed. Not how much they read online about cars and BS.

So in all honesty i would bring your goal down or budget up. The motor alone is going to soak up 30-50k. So think about that and what you ll have left over for the rest of the entire car its not too much. I dont think you can do it, but thats just me. When you put me in the mix with everyone around here i am a nobody.Figure out who knows what they are talking about, using your best judgement to find who speaks the truth and who is wasting your time.Than you can use what you find to help you along your quest for this monster machine.

Good luck here bud, nothing bad intended.

oh nothign taken to heart dude..responses like your are what im lokoing for..not for someone to come in here and say "ohhh you CANT do that" %^%K that i dont want to hear it..ive decided to hol don the b-body..ill build one of those down the road for a cruiser or soemthing..ive went back to the F-body for the car i want to build..that was my original platform but i really didnt think it would hold for what i wanted to do, but after talking to more then a few places it will and be perfect for what i want..here the engine im looking at right now http://www.nelsonracingengines.com/p..._454lsx_tt.pdf
its a 454inch LSX block with twin turbos..it makes almost 1,200 on pump gas and 1,600 on race gas with ONLY 14 pounds..its 36,000 bucks. Its rock staedy reliable, can be daily driven and fits my goals. the pirces i have above are from spohn performance..another 25,000 (including the 6,600 above) for the car, cage, tranny, torque arm, driveshaft, breaks, cross member, fuel
system and ill be well under my 100k budget. as of right there its 61k. i dont think il have another 40 grand in "nickel and dime" stuff do you lol

for the tranny i need some help with this. I want to stay with a 6 speed, but i cant find anyone that builds one that will hold this power..i tried to DDperformance (www.ddperformance.com) but i missed them. i searched there site and the strongest one they have listed is only 600 ft pounds..

Fuel system is something else ill need to education on. would 1/2'' I.D. lines be big enough? what about fuel pump?..

This is all F-body related now..also it will be a 3RD gen..i miss my GTA

Check out my parst list above and the engine link.. tell me waht you htink
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 10:56 PM
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This is about as close as you'll get.... only good for 1,200HP/1,000 lb-ft.

http://www.rsgear.com/transzilla.asp

Otherwise, look at a Lenco or a Liberty.

There goes a chunk of your "left-over" $40K.
Old Aug 15, 2008 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Injuneer
This is about as close as you'll get.... only good for 1,200HP/1,000 lb-ft.

http://www.rsgear.com/transzilla.asp

Otherwise, look at a Lenco or a Liberty.

There goes a chunk of your "left-over" $40K.

Thanks fred..just a question, there isnt any prices on there site..how much does this run?..that "left over" 40k (i love how you type it so casually like its common place lol) was after building the chassis. 36 for the motor, and another 25-30 to buld the chassis/driveline. i was looking at those exedy clutches they have linked but they dont show a power rating or prices either..
this clutch is gonna be like an on off switch lol
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 12:32 AM
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whatever you choose for a tranny just be aware that the lsx motors out there that are pushing 1100hp+ are blowing through them very fast, so use that ("extra 40k") lol... and buy an extra tranny if you can. and good luck.
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 01:10 AM
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the link that injuneer gave to me is looking to be a damn good tranny. the materials used in it are high quality and they say it can handle a lot of power. 1,200/1,100
i guess ill have to granny shift when im using race gas haha..
now i have to find a clutch that will hold it..theres not gonna be any slipping the cltuch i see. its gonna be like a switch lol
Old Aug 16, 2008 | 11:29 PM
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i found a clutch to use..

http://www.turboclutch.com/Pages/RPS%20BC3%20F-body.htm

billet triple disc carbon. just read the link for eye candy

i need to call rsgear monday to price out tehre tranny. That engine comes with a fuel pump and ignition..
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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talk to Jose at forced inductions. Hes good with high hp stuff. Also read on Ls1tech. There are much more 1000rwhp cars ove there. Not to say that we dont have any, but they are far and few.

You can even step those cubes up to a 481 or 470's if you really need the hp. Look into the warhawk block, it will fit your needs.
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by slomarao
talk to Jose at forced inductions. Hes good with high hp stuff. Also read on Ls1tech. There are much more 1000rwhp cars ove there. Not to say that we dont have any, but they are far and few.

You can even step those cubes up to a 481 or 470's if you really need the hp. Look into the warhawk block, it will fit your needs.
ive been doing research about the engine for a week or so and im all but sold on the NRE buiilt 454TT LSX. i had a nice convo with Tom Nelson today and he pretty much sealed the deal..i mean this engine makes 1650hp with 14 pounds of boost..the wastegates and turbos can make in excess of 35 pounds lol

i guess this thread is kinda dead now. ive gotten input from guys here, talked to who i needed to and picked out the parts i need. Pretty much the only thing i need to is find a clean rust free donor car, buy the parts, install the parts, get the car ready for the engine and have it taken to NRE to have them install the engine..
Old Aug 18, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Pretty much the only thing i need to is find a clean rust free donor car, buy the parts, install the parts, get the car ready for the engine and have it taken to NRE to have them install the engine..
You got the money?



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