If you are going LSx then those flanges wont matter anyway. He posted about that encouraging you to stick with a gen1/2 smallblock.

 

ohh i know that..like i said im brainstorming right now..id really like a smallblock package..how big can aftermarket Gen1/2 smallblocks be made?..ive seen 434's 454's and even a 472. is that about as big as they can get?.. what about reliability? i really like the LSX block or the DART LSX block..they can hold 30 pounds and support almost 2000hp

please shoot me some links if you have them for some aftermarket gen 1/2 blocks

 

That video is at least 4 years old.... and the car is long gone. No turbo... its a Vortech SC.

Not questioning your driving ability... just trying to be sure you are aware of what a handfull a car like that is. I drove it on the street when it was still an LT1 and only making 1,125HP, and it was driveable. But when he built the version in the video, it's not something that you would ever want to drive on the street. Suspension is totally "drag" oriented. Doubt it would generate any G's at all through a corner. PA tubular K-member, Afco drag shocks/springs, front-end travel limiters, no front sway bar, Mark Williams light-weight brakes, Spohn rear suspension including your typical adjustable torque arm, tubular LCA's, LCA relocation brackets, relocated panhard bar, and a Wolfe sway bar.

Do a search. There's a guy here who claimed he was making about 1,500HP with a turbo'd LT1, running in the 8's. Did most of the work himself, it you accept what he posted. Bottom end finally let go a couple months ago, though.

 

MY91Y84
I like your plans! I'm a B-body fan also. I've got a 91 Caprice, 96 Impala SS, and my dad has a 96 Imp SS also.

My suggestion is to go with a big inch aluminum big block. You can make more power than you can use realiably.

Check out this thread on ISSF: http://www.impalassforum.com/vBullet...ad.php?t=78789

I've got plans also, but I don't have the $$$ to move on it yet...

 

adioSS, im registed on that site..My screen name is B-crazy
im reading thorugh that link you posted and thats insane..i love the chassis pics he posted. this is what im looking for http://www.impalassforum.com/vBullet...0&d=1209092270

heres another pic of a 96 impay chassis 25.5 certified for 8.50's

http://www.impalassforum.com/vBullet...=78789&page=11

you have to scroll down about 3/4 of the page..its a 555 twin turbo big block,.. hes going for 1,500 hp on pump gas and 10 pounds of boost.. it made a little under a 1000 on motor alone..rear end is a 4 link with coil overs and an S60 rear end..its a starnge case with dana 60 gear sets..

 

yeah, Nathan's car is going to be awesome. Hell, it is already there!

His engine made ~1000 before being prepped for boost. They knocked it down to about 800hp with lower compression, different camshaft, etc. It should be able to make closer to 2000hp will good fuel and plenty of boost.

An LSX engine shoul be able to make the power you want while keeping the weight down. If you dig around enough on ISSF then you'll find Mike Smith's tube-frame BBC Caprice that should provide more inspiration...

Heck, here's a picture..

 

I thought this was a "F-BODY FORUM" and not a B-body forum? This should be moved to a different part of the board.

 

it is and thank you for pointing it out..its also advanced tech. and i dont know about you but this is defently advanced tech.. if you remember correctly i started this thread with engine plans that will make 1,500hp. and be able to daily drive, cruise, road course and 1/4. Thats advanced tech. The platform was chosen by me and wasnt relevant untill a couple night ago.
And goin by what more htena few of you have said there are B-bodies (again irrelevant) that can take the power im planning on making.

Ive been busy that last few days making phone call and such. ive been talking to nelson racing engines, victory racing engines and the guys that are building that 1,200 horse LSx for that DAILY drivin vette DPE.

i posted here becasue i want to learn more about turbo motors. the ADVANCED side of turbo motors..

 

daily drive a 25.5 chassis and road course.....

If I'm, going to spend 250k to build a 25.5 car from the ground up why the hell put it in a huge *** boat of a car.....kind of defeats the purpose.

Your 150k won't even cover the engine....

Guess you want it to burn pump gas too? I know I know...make it air powered...or water......

 

wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning did ya?..
read that link i posted..he bought the enigne and had it all turbo prepped for under 30k..hes done 90% of the chassis work himself..
i told you why i chose the platform i did..its strong as hell and just becasue you havent seen anyone do it before doesnt mean it cant be done..fill up your glass a little eh

 

I'll add a small comment and say that I don't think you're realistic in your goals with regards to your budget or the scope of this project.

Speaking from experience, building a car that comes close to what you are looking for is a huge undertaking that should not be taken lightly. Beyond the cost alone, there are many logistical issues that will need to be considered along the way. I strongly encourage you to plan a lot of time now for managing this project, because if you are not the project manager you will need to find one. If you don't take on this responsibility or find someone to do so, you will end up with a car that is in and out of various shops, lack of communication, and lots of wasted money and time. Trust me on this.

One other thing. Find a recipe or proven example and use that as your guide. If you want to do something for the first time or be really original it ends up costing way more and generally drags out the timeline. Contrary to what you believe or may read on the internet, new ideas that have not been done before rarely work the first time.

Or, here's another thought. Go to www.racingjunk.com and shop around until you find a project someone else has got tired of or can't afford any more. Then take whatever you buy and make it more into what you want. You'll probably save a bunch of time and money doing this.

 

A) What is the name of this website?

B) What is the forum heading you posted under?

Let me give you the answers....

A) CAMAROZ28.COM

B) 1967 TO 2002 F-BODY TECHNICAL DISCUSSION

To further answer your question, no this topic (called My Ultimate Build) isn't of advanced tech, its of a person (you) that has unrealistic goals for a pie in sky car that he wants to build some day. If you came to learn advanced tech then you need to read more, alot more and get real with yours goals.

If you have an engine question put it there, if you have a turbo question put it there, if you have a chassis question put it in the ImpalaSS forums where it belongs.

Thats great you spoke to an engine builder, I'm waiting for you to call a chassis shop or a custom shop to talk about your goals and how realistic they are. Back the Brinks truck up to the door is the first thing your going to hear them say.

Enough said...

 

Might want to stick to the "tech" part, and let the moderators handle what belongs where. You are way off base, based on the topics that are handled on the Advanced Tech forum, now and in the past. There is no limitation on this site to "F-Bodys", when the engines involved are similar - e.g. Y-Body, B-Body and F-Body. The primary emphasis in this forum is topics that push the envelope... but the call on what fits and doesn't fit is very subjective. If I didn't feel this wan an acceptable topic, I wouldn't have responded, and would have moved it.

Please let me do my job.

 

thanks Fred.

I don't see why somebody that has pushed the envelope with bolt-on LT1 performance is being so negative about pushing the envelope of B-bodies?

Why do people build up old POS Camaros, Novas, Chevelles, etc? They like that particular body-style and want to make the rest of the car better. Think back 10-15 years ago and tell us what people thought about 2nd Gen Camaros. At that time the 4th Gens were in production. Generally anything other than the earliest second gen F-cars were "white trash" mullet-mobiles. (No offense to anybody anywhere.) In the past few years those cars have become much more desirable thanks to cars such as the F-bomb that Friedburger and Nelson built in Hot Rod.

There are some of us that really like the big body cars. They had a BUNCH of room, very decent power, and many modern comforts. They were also built on chassis designs from the 70s that are vey similar to that of the A-body cars (Chevelle, etc.)

I've got my first car (91 Caprice) sitting under a carport at my grandparents house. They've had several people stop by to ask if it is for sale. Everybody wants me to sell the car. I'm too stubborn. The car isn't costing me anything sitting there. I tell them to think of that car like you would think of a 55 Chevy or 69 Camaro. Of course they don't see it, but I see a future of that car. Someday I want to run that car at Bonneville...

 

Injuneer, I disagree still, but its YOUR board and I understand the Golden Rule.

AdioSS, I won't even comment on this.