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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:13 AM
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kidding right? If so, why everybody doesn't do that? Okay when I built my 383 there were no LS2 yet, but now I definitely would go by this way.
BTW, next time you need a 383 built let me know. The U.S. charges waaaaaaaaaaay too much. I had a local shop build my short block for under $4000. My total bill for headwork, internals, cam, fuel injectors, tuning, misc parts, etc. was still under $9000.

Next motor I build will be in the LS family. I need to sell my current stroker.
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
Or you could buy an LS2 for half the price and do a mild cam and some headwork and have 500+ hp with bolt ons and tuning and near stock drivability.
100% right

ls2 is a stroked ls1 with z06 heads, and there cheap to build too, 1000 for ported heads, 400 for cam and roughly 800 for a fast 90/90 and your right around 500rwhp
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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100% right

ls2 is a stroked ls1 with z06 heads, and there cheap to build too, 1000 for ported heads, 400 for cam and roughly 800 for a fast 90/90 and your right around 500rwhp
Okay then I'm asking again Why everybody doesnt do that? Okay it doesnt end with an only engine.. Exhaust, PCM, Complete Harness, but I people already spend these moneys.
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Gripenfelter
BTW, next time you need a 383 built let me know. The U.S. charges waaaaaaaaaaay too much. I had a local shop build my short block for under $4000. My total bill for headwork, internals, cam, fuel injectors, tuning, misc parts, etc. was still under $9000.

Next motor I build will be in the LS family. I need to sell my current stroker.
Waaaaaaaay too much? Let me talk about "too much".

My engine was built for 17.000$ at ThunderRacing and came to my country for 28.000$ (Shipping & customs)

If I were US I would buy a Z06 Damned!! (Here Z06 is 200K $, and 10K $ taxes for every year)
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JustNO
Waaaaaaaay too much? Let me talk about "too much".

My engine was built for 17.000$ at ThunderRacing and came to my country for 28.000$ (Shipping & customs)

If I were US I would buy a Z06 Damned!! (Here Z06 is 200K $, and 10K $ taxes for every year)
What country are you in? Move here buddy, it's the land of muscle cars!

Old Aug 30, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JustNO
Okay then I'm asking again Why everybody doesnt do that? Okay it doesnt end with an only engine.. Exhaust, PCM, Complete Harness, but I people already spend these moneys.
Because it requires actually researching stuff. It is a lot easier for most older rich guys to just pay someone to stuff a factory preassmbled engine into an old hot rod and call it a day.

You can make 505hp for much, much, much cheaper than what it costs to buy an LS7.
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dangalla
100% right

ls2 is a stroked ls1 with z06 heads, and there cheap to build too, 1000 for ported heads, 400 for cam and roughly 800 for a fast 90/90 and your right around 500rwhp
Ok, put the pipe down. The LS2 has a 4.000" bore the LS1/6 has a 3.900" bore. The stroke is the same for both. The LS2 has the LS6 heads. Look at GMPowertrain's website for a more info.
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by dangalla
100% right

ls2 is a stroked ls1 with z06 heads, and there cheap to build too, 1000 for ported heads, 400 for cam and roughly 800 for a fast 90/90 and your right around 500rwhp

Actually Dan, it's a bored LS1...4" bore, still 3.622" stroke...

You would still need to get some pretty impressive heads and a little bigger cam to do the 500rwhp...Don't forget the longtubes and the porting of that intake as well, and a world class tune...500whp doesn't come easy, but it can be done if you pay attention to the small details...
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:22 PM
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Ok, put the pipe down. The LS2 has a 4.000" bore the LS1/6 has a 3.900" bore. The stroke is the same for both. The LS2 has the LS6 heads. Look at GMPowertrain's website for a more info.
ok ok i had it backwards sorry to get you all buthurt, point is its pretty impressive and alot cheaper than a ls7, and i said the ls2 had ls6 heads that was the important part

*picks the pipe back up and drives my far superior LT1*
Old Aug 30, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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ok ok i had it backwards sorry to get you all buthurt, point is its pretty impressive and alot cheaper than a ls7, and i said the ls2 had ls6 heads that was the important part

*picks the pipe back up and drives my far superior LT1*
So you're going to make the ridiculous amount of valve tap trip my knock sensor and make it retard 6 degrees of timing??? I'm on regular gas too, so that may help the boat anchor have a chance...And we may even have to go from a roll so your 10 bolt lives another day
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:09 AM
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I'm sorry... you can do a LT1 with 500hp for way less than that, and if you need more ponies N2O is cheap, and better yet, a turbo is only a few grand. $10000 on a build bass *** LT1, then $4000 on a turbo... bingo... 700 hp with a G left for fuel pump and suspension brake upgrades.

Not that it's cheap, but that LS7 engine has some wicked technology in it for a street car... but it's not unbeatable for the cost. Though it's nice to have GM back it up with warranty.
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 01:24 AM
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The LS7 is not really worth it because unless you have the big $$$$ to build it its about as far as you can go with it. if you want an ls engine build an iron block lsx style. I am building a L76/L92 408. it might not be the best proven combo but should net me around 475-500rwhp and cost about the same as it would to build my lt1.
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Also........
Unless you're starting with an LS1 F-Body, you'll be doing a transmission swap too.
When my LT1 starts getting tired (which should be in the very distant future since it only has 65,000 miles on the clock), I'll likely switch to an LS2-based 402.
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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lol... if you say so.

Please enlighten me,ls7's average 430-450rwhp with reliablity and good gas milage N/A,i am far from any kind of expert but just dont see it happening.I know you can get that kind of power from an lt1,but i look at it in terms of streetable.
Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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Please enlighten me,ls7's average 430-450rwhp with reliablity and good gas milage N/A,i am far from any kind of expert but just dont see it happening.I know you can get that kind of power from an lt1,but i look at it in terms of streetable.
Exactly, thats what I think.

BTW I already change my transmission as you see: from A4 to M6..

Anyway its too late to be regret isn't it?



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