Supras are lightweight?

Most guys on here know there are fast imports out there, so you don't need to go on a forum crusade. I don't know how it is where you live, but if I head on over to the local dragstrip (maple grove raceway), I see plenty of 7,8 and 9 second cars all night, mostly domestics, and many of them are on just motor, so don't go saying there are more fast imports, because I don't buy that crock of **** one bit. Maybe in "street racing", but to me street racing has always been bullsh!t. I am not one of those "keep it safe, take it to the track" do-gooders either, I have just always found "organized" street racing to be a joke.

 

Street racing is insanely dumb. No need for it on public roads. And I don't want to hear anyone say "Oh, but we do it on roads without traffic". It's still a public road. Go to the tracks and kill yourselves in your Ramen Noodle box cars.

 

thanks 4 all the help guys...

I have decided to buy me a engine block, not sure what size i dont want a 350 or 383 becuz everybody around here is runnin them, and I say why be the same, i was thinking about runnin a 406 but I know nothin about them, just recenly heard of them, can anyone give me info on them??

I whould like to get a 305 block or 327 block maybe a 406 block and do some macine work 2 them (not the stock displacement) but i plane on buildin the motor right, like 1 1/2 years project on account of money income, just somethin 2 do and build it right from the bottom up. hows a 305 with a stroker kit sound?? I belive its a 334 in the end.

but the only catch is I wanna run the TPI system still.

 

If you are buying a block and starting from scratch, why would you buy anything less than a 350? Granted you want to be different, but there are plenty of things you can do to a 350 to personalize it from the competition.

 

Thank you. End of story.

 

I don't think a stroker 334 is still a good idea in the end. I would go with a 350 block, and bring it to whatever displacement you desire. A stroker 334 is still going to have to make due with the 305s bore size, and the engine already has problems breathing at it's stock displacement to begin with. Better heads would definetly help, but they can only do so much, and there will be possibly too much valve shrouding with the 305 bore. My point is do yourself a favor, get a 350 block, then do whatever you want with it from there. There are plenty of ways to build a unique 350.

 

As for the supra comment, I meant "those cars" as imports in general. I figured as long as we were summarizing them so succinctly as "pos honduhs", I could do the same.

As for the street racing comment... You can say whatever you want. I was giving him information as far as my opinion on what it would take to beat a majority of the imports, going from my experiences. I simply stated, where I am, there are more fast imports then fast domestics running around on the streets. You can't argue with that point, unless you live here.

Thank you. "End of Story."

 

I didn't type "End of Story", even though you seemed to direct it at me. I also get tired of hearing the blanket statement "imports are so much lighter." Mayb the Hondas and the 240s, but what else? Not much. Certainly the high end Supras, 300zxs, 3000gts aren't any lighter. How much lighter is an old DSM compared to an old Fox body? I am beting not much, especially when compared against a notchback.

I don't know where you live, so I can't comment on the faster car thing. I also in no way hate imports, I would have an MKIV Supra Turbo if I could. I am just stating that if you are trying to allude to there being more fast imports than domestics anywhere, then I would say you are dead wrong. Maybe all the 7 second guys don't race on the street with the small fish anymore, because they can't. I would imagine hooking up on the street with a car of that nature would be exceedingly difficult.

 

Anything can be made to be fast if you put enough money into it. In my experience, however, most import owners only put on a CAI, a really loud muffler, phat dubs, and some cheap body kit (which they never get painted to match the car).

 

Yeah, the "end of story" comment was aimed at 85_305, just like pretty much all of my posts. I also see mostly domestics running the fast times at Union Grove, I was simply trying to throw in a little bit of respect for the imports that are setup well, as am sick of the "pos honduh"-type comments. The ridiculously fast stuff definately isn't on the street, I was only making those statements because the thread starter expressed that he wanted to be faster then the imports on the street. I'm not saying, in any means, that imports are better then domestics or vice versa. Just felt like spreading the word that there are very serious import street cars out there.

As far weight, you're very right. AWD 3000GT's and DSMs are definately far from light. Those civics and integras on the other hand move pretty well with their size and 220 horsepower. That was my only point, wasn't intending to start a rice vs. domestic war.

 

two posts was not by any means a crusade. when your subscribed to this post did you happen to notice the topic is "rice eater"?In a topic called rice eater i would expect to see some rice talk. I think that the talk on hand is perfectly on topic. The original poster of this topic might not have been aware that a 305 tpi will have a hard time beating a teg on boost. Now he is.Not trying to offend so no pun intended but i get offened when people jump to conclusions. nobody said anything about there being more imports or street racing. Simple comparison is all. I raced a mommys boy once with a 3000gt with the mods in my sig and almost died when he thrashed me off the line. That was because at the time had no idea i was racing a 300-330hp 6 speed awd turbo v6. I got him in the end but since that day i have given them a better look over before racing them. You have to know the competition if you want to beat it.


Generaly very true. Most are kid's who have never actualy been in a fast car and think there sohc vtec is a race car.
Ill back that one up its pretty much a waste of money that could be better spent on real displacment.IE 350-383.

Very counter productive and expensive to get to flow. You should try a lt1 intake converted. that way you could run it on your 305 tpi for now and carry it over to your 350 later. Your best bet and cheapest would be a 350 l98 with a cam and lt1 intake,stock bottom and a good exhaust.

 

Yeah, I really didn't feel like getting involved in a drawn out import vs domestic war, but sometimes I can't help but to throw my two cents in. I can typically respect anything that is fast, and a fast import is no exception.

A brilliant statement, and one that I can't agree with enough.