lt1 in thirdgen
Alright fellas, here's the way the cookie crumbles
:
The wiring/ecm stuff sucks, as we all know. The accessory and AC junk can get pretty messy too. You can find a 350 shortblock dirt cheap (I sold the L98 SB for $175 last week with PM rods). LT1 heads (Aluminum/flow excellently) can be had for $200 (I've got a set if you want
) and ported for just as cheap as any other head. Cam is the same. Intake can be had for $75 including fuel rails and mod'ed for under $300. Let's gander:
Hard Parts
350 Shortblock - 200
Heads - 200
Mod'ing Heads - 100
Intake/Rails - 75
Mod'ing Intake - 300
Cam (CMotorsports GP) - 600 --OPTIONAL--
Labor
Wiring/ECM - Simple swap, no repinning
Running AC - No problemo
Accessories - Stock 3rd gen acc. work
Ok, now we have a camm'ed, custom, "LT1" for $1,475. Subtract the $600 for cam kit, now just a custom "LT1" and you're looking at $875. Even if you can find a running LT1 for that price, tack on some for k-member work (if you run AC). Vette acc. or aftermarket are another couple hundred $. Have fun wiring it all together. Hope you can afford a few weeks down-time.
The Final Answer
If you've got the option, build the LT1 Intake/Head'ed SBC. Easier to do, plain and simple. Same potential, just as "custom" IMO. Less down-time of the car. And most of all, less expensive.
Later,
Corey
:The wiring/ecm stuff sucks, as we all know. The accessory and AC junk can get pretty messy too. You can find a 350 shortblock dirt cheap (I sold the L98 SB for $175 last week with PM rods). LT1 heads (Aluminum/flow excellently) can be had for $200 (I've got a set if you want
) and ported for just as cheap as any other head. Cam is the same. Intake can be had for $75 including fuel rails and mod'ed for under $300. Let's gander:Hard Parts
350 Shortblock - 200
Heads - 200
Mod'ing Heads - 100
Intake/Rails - 75
Mod'ing Intake - 300
Cam (CMotorsports GP) - 600 --OPTIONAL--
Labor
Wiring/ECM - Simple swap, no repinning
Running AC - No problemo
Accessories - Stock 3rd gen acc. work
Ok, now we have a camm'ed, custom, "LT1" for $1,475. Subtract the $600 for cam kit, now just a custom "LT1" and you're looking at $875. Even if you can find a running LT1 for that price, tack on some for k-member work (if you run AC). Vette acc. or aftermarket are another couple hundred $. Have fun wiring it all together. Hope you can afford a few weeks down-time.
The Final Answer
If you've got the option, build the LT1 Intake/Head'ed SBC. Easier to do, plain and simple. Same potential, just as "custom" IMO. Less down-time of the car. And most of all, less expensive.
Later,
Corey
Corey, I call
on that "optional cam kit" It is mandatory.
Seriously, if you are goint that far and the engine is out, you might as well drop the $600 for the cam instead of taking it out all again and dropping the oil pan to get at the timing cover to do the cam if you ever decided to do it later.
on that "optional cam kit" It is mandatory.
Seriously, if you are goint that far and the engine is out, you might as well drop the $600 for the cam instead of taking it out all again and dropping the oil pan to get at the timing cover to do the cam if you ever decided to do it later.
Originally posted by aklim
Corey, I call
on that "optional cam kit" It is mandatory.
Seriously, if you are goint that far and the engine is out, you might as well drop the $600 for the cam instead of taking it out all again and dropping the oil pan to get at the timing cover to do the cam if you ever decided to do it later.
Corey, I call
on that "optional cam kit" It is mandatory.
Seriously, if you are goint that far and the engine is out, you might as well drop the $600 for the cam instead of taking it out all again and dropping the oil pan to get at the timing cover to do the cam if you ever decided to do it later.
[Redneck Voice]"I can get an LT1 for way less than $1475"[/Redneck Voice]
I got me one of them thar LT ONE engines for less than that. Makes a right nice weight to hold my garage floor down durin the twisters.
Chewin tabaccy, chewin tabaccy, chewin tabaccy, spit. If you ain't a redneck, you ain't worth ****.
Ok, I'm back to normal now.
Chewin tabaccy, chewin tabaccy, chewin tabaccy, spit. If you ain't a redneck, you ain't worth ****.
Ok, I'm back to normal now.
I remember a test between a set of aluminum L98 heads and a set of iron vortec heads. The vortec heads won. The results of the LT1 heads should be similar since the vortec heads are based on LT1 heads.
I would highly recommend going with the lt1 unless he just likes running slow then I would recommend the l98
Originally posted by formularpm
For all intensive purposes, the L98 is just a 1pc seal Gen. 1 smallblock, and there are plenty of very, very fast Gen. 1 smallblocks out there. Ever run across a set of 18, 15, or 14 deg. heads for your LT1?
For all intensive purposes, the L98 is just a 1pc seal Gen. 1 smallblock, and there are plenty of very, very fast Gen. 1 smallblocks out there. Ever run across a set of 18, 15, or 14 deg. heads for your LT1?
Originally posted by 97WS6SCharged
Yep. Nothing like a SBC singing to a ricer like 9000 RPM.
Yep. Nothing like a SBC singing to a ricer like 9000 RPM.
Did I mention the 800+ HP? Cough*Nextel Cup*Cough
aklim:
I don't know the results but AFAIK, the LT1 heads are some of the best factory flowing heads ever. And don't compare them to aluminum L98 heads, the cheapest I've seen a set of them go for is ~$450ish. Psh, that leaves $250 worth of porting (assuming you spend 200 on LT1 heads)

I think I've seen 18* LT1 heads. Ever seen a set of LT5 heads? I haven't, but I'd imagine they are insane

redlined: So you're going LT1 eh? Good luck, and any questions--post 'em up!
-Corey
I've seen a set of LT5 heads, one was on a motor that was being assembled, the other was on a 94 ZR1 I test drove. Couldn't afford it at the time, but it was fun to test drive.
7800 RPM redline was pretty trippy. 
To make a set of 18* LT1 heads you take a set of 18* SBC heads and add some additional coolant holes (kinda the opposite of converting LT1 heads to SBC use). Cost for the 18* heads and the conversion is way cheaper than a set of $6k Arao heads.
BTW, AFIK, no one has gotten the Arao/Dominion heads to work on an LT1 yet, though I could be wrong.
7800 RPM redline was pretty trippy. 
To make a set of 18* LT1 heads you take a set of 18* SBC heads and add some additional coolant holes (kinda the opposite of converting LT1 heads to SBC use). Cost for the 18* heads and the conversion is way cheaper than a set of $6k Arao heads.

BTW, AFIK, no one has gotten the Arao/Dominion heads to work on an LT1 yet, though I could be wrong.
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